MSI Nforce 980a and AMD Phenom II X2 555BE

Hello as the topic looks im having troubles with my msi board to fully unlock the potential of this nice cpu and now for info
# AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition
# MSI Nforce 980a (MS-7612) using bios A7612 v1.4
# G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
# XFX 9800GT
# Seagate 250gb HD and 2 TB Western Digital
# Windows 7 64bit
# Antec Neopower 550Watt
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having troubles with my msi board to fully unlock the potential of this nice cpu
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AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition
I am afraid that is the full potential according to AMD for this nice CPU. What you intend to do is to unlock cores that were deliberately locked by AMD to ensure that you have the stable use of this nice CPU.
The potential instabilities that may result, far outnumber the probabilities that it will actually be successful. Count yourself very lucky if you do have success, otherwise be happy that you got a working Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition that you paid for.

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Quote from: badboy2k on 03-March-15, 11:32:44
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