Msi nx8400GS low fps problem

this is my first post
i have read all the posting guides i hope i got it correctly
System Information
Time of this report: 8/22/2008, 03:00:06
Machine name: ------
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Unknow
System Model: Unknow
BIOS: )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.3GHz
Memory: 1022MB RAM
Page File: 258MB used, 2200MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
Display Devices
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 8400 GS
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0422&SUBSYS_07401462&REV_A1
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.7519 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
that was my system specs...
every time i play warcraft3 after 30 mins of playing the fps rate drops... i try to search for solutions but all i have seen is 8400gs is not good for gaming T_T????? but i played high graphic game like cabal online but it works smoothly..
i would like to know if it is true...
i once have a 128 videocard and AMD 200xp MSI motherboard it works very fine...
pls help...
thanks in advance

One of my friends has an 8400 and it works great with warcraft 3. He plays it maxed out settings at 1280x1024. Nice and smooth. He only has a E4600. I assume you have latest graphic drivers and warcraft 3 patch (1.22a)? Hope it helps. I have a 8600 GT and it works great for low end gaming and they are only like 80 dollars. I would not recommend the MSI one that I use. It has passive cooling and runs very hot. Other then that it works great. For under a hundred dollars, I believe the best graphics card is a 3850.
Good luck, Taz

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My English is not so good, so sorry if it's not correct, but I hope anyone could help me.
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