MSI P35 Neo and Q8300

In the CPU support section of the MSI site for motherboard it lists the Q8200 and Q8400 but not the Q8300.
Does anyone know if this CPU is supported as it's currently cheaper than the Q8200.
Thanks

To properly ID which P35 Neo you have what BIOS version is yours?
There are 2 different versions, one uses 2x BIOS and the other uses 1x. If yours has the 1x like my P35 Neo go by the CPU list for G33 MB and you will see it supported as of BIOS 1.9. I think the list is fouled up for both as on the P35 Neo it's missing the Q8300 and on the the G33 it's missing the Q8400. I have found far too many errors and omissions on their CPU support lists. Not to mention not having the P35 Neo with the 1x BIOS there also. Anyway the Q8300 should work OK provided you have a late enough BIOS that supports it for either version of the MB. As far as I know the only difference is speed, Q8200~2.33, Q8300~2.50, Q8400~2.66
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodcpu2&prod_no=1224&maincat_no=1

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MSI P35 Neo-F (MS-7360): Computer randomly freezes while playing games

Hi there,
I have reached the end of my technical knowledge right now and I'm not even sure if this area of the forum is appropriate. The problem:
While playing higher-end games like Crysis 2, Anno 1404, Mass Effect 2 etc. my computer randomly freezes and the last few milliseconds of sound are being looped on my speakers (kind of like a buzzing sound).
By "freezing" I mean that my computer becomes unresponsive to any action other than pressing the Reset-Button or holding down the Power-Up-Button (no reaction to Ctrl+Alt+Del, Alt+F4, Alt+Tab, no mouse movement... you get it).
There's no exact timing as to when these freezes occur. The fastest freeze happened after less than a minute of playing a game, slowes one (just today after switching to my newer case with better cooling) took about 2 hours.
This freeze only occurs while my System is under load. No freezes while browsing the web, using office programs, listening to music or watching videos.
System Specs:
Mainboard: MSI P35 Neo-F (MSI-7360)
CPU: Intel Core2Quad Q6600 @2.4GHz
RAM: 4x 1GB DDR2-800 Corsair XMS2
Graphics: Gainward GeForce GTX 560 Ti, 1GB GDDR5 VRAM
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New CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 13 Pro (upgraded from OEM Intel Boxed Cooler)
New Case: Zalman Z9 Plus w/ 4x 120 mm Fans (Upgraded from a Case with only 1x 250mm side Fan)
2 Western Digital HDD (1x 2TB, 1x320 GB)
1 DVD Reader/Burner (unimportant for that error I guess)
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit
2 Screens: 1x 24" Asus VS248H and 1x 21" LG Flatron Wide W2240T
Since this error is bugging me for quite a while now and since this is not the first forum I'm trying to get help from, here's a list of steps i already took to get rid of it, obviously to no good use:
reinstalled games where the freeze occurred
updated all Drivers (including cleaning old versions in safe mode; also tried older drivers)
updated BIOS to v1.A0
Reinstalled Windows
bought new Case and CPU Cooler to improve Air Flow/Cooling
checked Seating of all components (took out, cleaned, reapplied thermal grease where neccessary, re-inserted)
cleaned old case of dust (obviously no problem in the new case, which is 2 days "old")
ran 7 sequences of Memtes86+ without any errors
ran Prime95 without any errors for about 45 Minutes
ran Furmark for 15 Minutes under full load (burn-in test) without any problems, even though my graphics card hit the 100°C frequency-cut level
ran Furmark and Prime95 simultaneously without any problems
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tested with only 2 RAM devices in dual channel mode (Slots 1 and 3)
tried to reduce RAM clock (800 MHz --> 667 MHz) to no avail
checked S.M.A.R.T. values of HDDs, no issues reported
tested without any background programs
raised/lowered voltages to RAM, CPU and Chipset in BIOS to increase logic circuit stability/decrease heat production
I need to mention: After I transferred my system to the new case, i was able to play longer than average compared to my old case. So I am guessing that improper cooling was part of the problem, yet improving cooling obviously didn't resolve it.
Since these freezes are really annoying and nobody could help me resolve this so far, I'm hoping to find some new ways of narrowing down the problem or even getting rid of it here.
Regards
Sebb

Quote from: Bernhard on 10-July-12, 13:15:30
Lets be realistic. A system with a 560TI is recommended to have a around 31Amps under full load, a CX500 would be sufficient.
Have you monitored your CPU and memory utilisation ?
As suggested before, test the GPU in another computer to see if the behaviour is the same.
Whew, I thought for a second there that my common sense had left me when I saw that 60-Amp-Post ^^
Yes, I monitored CPU and RAM usage, there is no recognizeable pattern to be seen and it almost never happens under full load.
I will see if a friend of mine can test my GPU on his computer, and I will test it underclocked right away.
Though one more question regarding that: Should I only underclock GPU Core Clock or both Core and RAM clock?

Problem with my MSI P35 Neo MotherBoard [Cannot find harddrive]

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What i have tried is that.. I've followed the "beginners guide" to install arch linux, and when i noticed that i got a big problem with my harddrive i asked some people for help, tough we cannot figure out what the problem is..
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pointone wrote:*snip*
I don't have this AHCI option. So i don't know what to do else. Do you know?
AD28 wrote:*snip*
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VCORE PROBLEMS WITH MSI P35 NEO F

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You can slap 1.6v in that CPU and temps won't rise that much.
Core 2 Duo/Quad operates @ 1.250-1.425, anywhere in between those values is perfectly stable for Intel stock cooler and frequency.
Absolutely nothing to worry about. But if you want to complain about >1c I really can't see the sense in that.

MSI P35 NEO & dual core center problem

hi, i have a problem with my motherboard msi, Bios 1.2 and the dual core center 2.0.0.8 ,since days ago, the msi dual core center 2.0.0.8 so many times shows fan speeds alerts false alarms from the cpe temp, for that reason, i upgraded the appl to 2.0.1.6 ( the last),i set the oc level to 25% like with the older version, but time later the pc crash and put a black crash screen and it dont let me to overclock my cpu , i get back to 2.0.0.8 but the fan alarm dont stop, and i dont know if the newer version fix this problem
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******* xms2 2x2 gb ddr2 part no cm2x2048 6400c4dmx
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memory voltage 2.1
Make sure that the memory timings are not set to 4-4-4-x but that they are set to the defaults values (5-5-5-x). Also ensure, that the memory clock speed is not set to anything higher than 400 MHz (=DDR2-800). The voltage at these settings should not need to exceed 1.95V. So please lower it accordingly. In case the freezes still occure, please run memtest86+ to check your memory for errors.
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msi dual core center
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MSI p35 Neo-Fi & PSU compatibility question

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I recently got Coolermaster real power 700w psu which obsiviously wasn't working with the mobo (couldn't boot). Now I'm returning that psu and I have to ask which PSUs are compatible with this MSI p35 Neo-Fi motherboard.
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The 650TX is an excellent choice. I'm interested in what other components you are going to have in the system.
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The most important stuff listed. Got these equipment couple of weeks ago

MSI P35 Neo FIR IDE channels

Hey there,
I have an MSI P35 Neo FIR and I'm curious as to how the single IDE port on the motherboard works. Where does the IDE's primary and secondary channel lie in relation to the rest of the channels on the system? It sounds like a weird question, but what I'm getting at is the board has several SATA channels which seem to be of higher priority.
I need to make a 320GB IDE drive the most prioritised "master" drive in the system, but I'm concerned that the other SATA channels mean that at best the drive would be master of the 8th channel or thereabouts. Am I making a small amount of sense?

Nowdays, SATA Controller treats the drives with individuality, where it can treat each SATA drive as IDE Master Number #x. Only for IDE where master and slave are still involved.
I have the same curiousity as Jack only why does the master drive concern much in your system? If it's the boot order and you have the SATA drive as the boot drive, you can simply go into BIOS and select that particular drive to boot off from. If it's a new installation and you need to run the installation disc off the optical drive, you can also select that to boot off in BIOS settings as well.

MSI P35 Neo 2 FR refuses to boot

Hello. I own a MSI P35 Neo 2 FR. I have it for about 4 weeks. Today, i shut down the computer and, after i tried to restart it, it refuses to boot...
The MB doesn't even start. But, if i get the CPU cable off the board, the MB starts, but it remains at the 4 red lights...
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Is the board fried?
Should i take it to warranty?

Quote from: flobelix on 22-February-09, 00:26:11
Your psu is very weak. That Cooler Master states it would be be able to do sli means nothing.
Funny, 43A on +12V is very weak, and a statement of CM is invalidated without proof.
Quote from: flobelix on 22-February-09, 00:26:11
It is a split rail with three rails at 19A peak each. Peak means seconds before it blows to pieces or shuts down.
How do you know that's a peak value and not a continuous one at 40°C? That unit is a decent AcBel unit, not groundbreaking neither a craptacular one, just a PSU who can power without problems a quad OC-ed on air and a GTX 280.
Quote from: flobelix on 22-February-09, 00:26:11
Across all rails it should do 516w on +12v (which means peak also), that's 43A peak total. So it won't do even 40A continous that's for sure. On each rail it won't do any more than 16-17A.
My god! How do you know that? If it's not PC P&C it doesn't mean that it's crap.
Read before blame a PSU for a failing MB.
Quote from: flobelix on 22-February-09, 00:26:11
I'd recommend trying with another and stronger psu before doing anything else.
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MSI p35 neo combo 8gb?

I have msi p35 neo combo(or ms 7365) with 2X2 gb ram(4gb in total) and i want to put 8gb ram.Is it possible to put 8gb on this motherbord and which frequency should it have for new ram?

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MSI P35 Neo & Core2Duo E6550, Windows & CPU-Z finds ONLY 1 core...?

Windows device maneger shows only one core for my system. Is this normal bahaviour?
Also CPU-Z indicates one core. Is there something I can do to solve this issue?
Not really nice feature when using Core2Duo!
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Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 13-October-07, 20:23:16
Note: If one or both of the first two Options is disabled at the moment and you have to enable them, Windows may not boot anymore. You will have to Re-install the OS or try a repair installation. Windows XP is not able to automatically adjust to the changes automatically.
There is a fastest way without bother to repair or reinstall OS..
We can force desired HAL by this way, the method used is very usefull and can be applied even when OS doesn't provide choice for manual HAL update.
(etc: desired HAL is not listed as choice... Windows often becomes rather stupid...):
Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC & ACPI Uniprocessor PC use the same kernels, etc: only specify hal is enough:
in boot.ini ---> /hal=halacpi.dll (for Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC) and /hal=halaacpi.dll (for ACPI Uniprocessor PC)
NOTE: files should already exist into system32 folder. file version should match with currently version installed. if you got SP2 get files from here:
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Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC ----> halacpi.dll
ACPI Uniprocessor PC -------> halaacpi.dll
ACPI Multiprocessor PC -------> halmacpi.dll
or use microsoft expand if you don't have winzip:
cmd, go to C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache\i386\
type from there:
expand sp2.cab -F:myhal.dll c:\windows\system32
where myhal.dll= your chosen hal (halacpi.dll, halaacpi.dll or halmacpi.dll)
for XP without SP2, same procedure but look for HAL files into "\I386" XP installation folder(and those syntax from there:)
expand HALACPI.DL_ %systemroot%\system32\HALACPI.DLL
or expand HALMACPI.DL_ %systemroot%\system32\HALMACPI.DLL
or expand HALAACPI.DL_ %systemroot%\system32\HALAACPI.DLL
or to force directly to default hal:
booting from recovery console command prompt, or from other location and load NTFS mounter with read&write NTFS support:
navigate to root OS drive and go to OS root directory(%windir%) into system32 folder:
example: (where C is OS root drive, and "windows" is OS root folder)
C:
cd windows\system32
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cd "c:\windows\driver cache\i386"
ren myhal.dll hal.dll /* where myhal.dll should be replaced with one of chosen hal: halacpi.dll, halaacpi.dll or halmacpi.dll */
for ACPI Multiprocessor PC we need to update kernels too, go to c:\windows\system32 and make backup 1st: (under pure DOS, or different OS)
force ACPI Multiprocessor PC:
cd c:\windows\system32
ren ntkrnlpa.exe ntkrnlpa.old
ren ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.old
ren hal.dll hal.old /* backup hal too, gona replace it also */
cd "c:\windows\driver cache\i386"
expand sp2.cab -F:halmacpi.dll c:\windows\system32
expand sp2.cab -F:ntkrpamp.exe c:\windows\system32
expand sp2.cab -F:ntkrnlmp.exe c:\windows\system32
cd c:\windows\system32
ren halmacpi.dll hal.dll
ren ntkrpamp.exe ntkrnlpa.exe
ren ntkrnlmp.exe ntoskrnl.exe
reboot PC you have done, no modification into boot.ini is required. at XP startup will detect new hal installed and will be asked for reboot. you have switched to ACPI Multiprocessor PC.
You can review default HAL files and restore it if you don't have backup(if you skip or forgot to make backup) from looking here: \Windows\Repair\Setup.log search for "HAL" inside will find original file name locations.
also HAL query can be obtained from this registry key: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\ACPI_HAL\0000\HardwareID
The thing that need to take attention is that:
Make sure that HAL along with both kernels will be from same SP, etc: if you currently use SP2 dig for HAL file & kernels in:
C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache\i386\sp2.cab
respective if you are using SP3:
C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache\i386\sp3.cab
If no there is no SP installed look for them in I386 folder in XP installation disk.
Takes less than 2 minutes, and switch to desired HAL without troubles.

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Forgive me for my lack of knowledge but I need some info please.
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Thks for any input:)

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1.) Can this MB run Win 7 64 bit?
Yes
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2.) Will I need to find 64 bit drivers for the LAN, sound card, etc and download them prior to installation of Win 7?
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