MSI P35 Neo2-FR / FIR

Hello,
Yesterday my pc didn't start and my motherboard status led were stuck on all green.After I turned off the PSU and turn it on again the leds went to all 4 red. After an hour of powering on and off ( and 1 CMOS reset) it went on red green red red (ram failure). I kept trying while changing the ram position around but no luck. While doing my attempts I notice that only a few times did the leds blink confirming that the their status changed. Also i noticed that when the leds blinked , the pc fans were making more noise, normal to when the pc is on and working. The other times i noticed that the leds just kept their old colors and the fans were a bit quite than normal.A few times the leds changed from red green red red to all 4 red (cpu failure) and with the fan noise like when pc is working normally.
The day before I had the same problem but I managed to start the pc within the first hour.
Now i'm stuck at all 4 reds with no status change on them and fan noise lower meaning i think that is not getting to the point where is checking the cpu,ram etc.
PC Configuration:
- Motherboard : MSI P35 Neo2-FR / FIR BIOS Vs : 1.C
- CPU : Intel e8400 no OC
- PSU : Fortron Blue Storm II 500 W
- GPU : Gainward ATI Radeon HD 4850 no OC
- RAM : 2x Corsair XMS2-6400 ver 5.4 no OC

Update:
I removed the battery and reset the CMOS. After 2-3 hours i reinserted the battery and now the status led blink once to red green red red ( ram failure). I had this ram failure problem for a long time but i used to fix it by a CMOS reset or a few movement of the rams and was fine for a couple of months until it resurfaces at random.
I have tried 2 different rams and the same led status show. Also when i press the reset button, in 3 seconds the PC shutdown and restarts. Before yesterday pressing reset was just making the motherboard restart and the leds were blinking once again to show the status change but now no blink on the leds when i press reset.

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When i check the memory with CPU-Zv1.44 the memory only goes with the frequencys of
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Why doesn't they go in 4-4-4-12 frequencys Huh
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>>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<
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@NovJoe
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I have test with one piece of ram. also i tested with another cpu (Intel Celeron 1.6 - i cant remember the model).
My motherboard version is 1.2 (MS-7345 V1.2)
(i dont know if it helps but hibernation working really good! working on windows and mac)
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For some reason this board is Bios only have IDE, RAID and ACHI and I don't see a SATA.
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Unfortunately, used in the south bridges ICH9R the version of such technology provides access only to one hard disk at the specific moment of time. . The technology became more complex to realize , which implies to several access disks simultaneously, possesses higher cost and more higher central processor loads , therefore it can be rejected.
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Spread Spectrum
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Quote from: Del UK on 05-September-08, 05:13:05
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Go to Microsoft update and choose custom
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Hi there
Thanks for your reply. I went to MS updates, didn't see any in custom about hardware (apart from updated ethernet driver). Installed all updates anyway. And the problem remains...

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