MSI P35 Neo2-FR - Will this work??

Hi,
I am planning a new system, after my current one is a little dated. Here is an outline of what I am planning to build: -
CPU - Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz SLACR G0
M/B - MSI P35 Neo2-FR
RAM - Ballistix DDR2 PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 Unbuffered NON-ECC (4x 1GB)
G/C - INNO3D GeForce 7300GT 256MB DDR2 PCI-E
I am not needing it for gaming, but more for production work (Graphic design, Illustration and video editing).
I have a few questions if anyone can answer them for me?
Is the RAID facility on board a hardware RAID or software RAID. Since its provided by the Northbridge I am pressuming its software.
How many SATA ports can be used at any one time. For example, does using the 2x eSATA ports, reduce the amount of on board ports you can use? (Like some USB ports?).
If I wanted to use a SATA DVDRW connected to the southbridge SATA port, would I be able to boot from it?
I can see many people have had problems with installing Vista on this board, can anyone see any compatability issues with my proposed setup?
Many thanks!!!
Phil

Quote from: Hans Gruber on 28-November-07, 19:07:02
The only compatability issue would be with your 7300gt card. That's hardly enough power to run a game let alone graphics editing. You would be much better served with an 8800gt to perform video editing.
Hi Hans, the 7300 is the same card used in the Mac G5's used in my place of employment for graphic design / video editing. Although some have the 8800GT as well, this is the card used in the majority of the machines. I am sure it will be ok but you reassured one of my existing concerns. I can always upgrade this if it doesnt cut the grain!
Thankyou!!!
Quote from: Maesus on 28-November-07, 19:33:33
Please spend some time to read the moan guide if you haven't.
Yeah not much on there with regards to my post. Cheers but I did read it before I posted.
Quote from: Maesus on 28-November-07, 19:33:33
0. All of your answers are here: http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1261&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=170 you just need to read line by line and you shouldn't miss the answers.
was already a bookmark in my browser as I have been researching it for a while now. Just wanted clarification on a few things hence my post.
Quote from: Maesus on 28-November-07, 19:33:33
1. It's ICH9 RAID. It's southbridge, not northbridge. It's hardware RAID.
ICH9 provides a RAID facility is software RAID using Intel Matrix Storage Manager. The CPU processes the parity for RAID 5.
Quote from: Maesus on 28-November-07, 19:33:33
2. you can max up the SATA ports. How many is on this board? 6 SATA ports? you can use them all.
There are 2x eSATA ports (I am pressuming from the ICH9), and 4x SATA on the ICH9, and 1x SATA on the 88SE6111. What I was trying to ask is do the 2x eSATA ports render 2 of the ICH9 ports unavailable?
Quote from: Maesus on 28-November-07, 19:33:33
2a. USB ports does NOT reduce the total amount of USB ports to use, where did you get that info or having that impression??
I worded this completely wrong. My bad..... I have had motherboards before where if you connect a usb back plane to the USB header on the main board, it simply stops you using some of the USB's on the rear panel. This is simply like a redirect to allow you to plug USB devices in to the front of your PC case instead of reaching around the back for it rather than allowing you to add additional ports. This is what I was trying to ask, If I am to use the 2x eSATA ports does that mean that it renders 2x of my onboard SATA ports obselete.
Quote from: Maesus on 28-November-07, 19:33:33
3. Yes
Thankyou
Quote from: Maesus on 28-November-07, 19:33:33
4. it's not really compatibility issue, but more of Vista's own issue, just that you need to do the right step to get Vista installed. Quad Core + 4GB, well, microsoft acknowledge the Vista installation issues with this config. You will need Vista 64-bit, but start installing with 1GB or 2GB. After completing installation, install microsoft quad core and 4GB patches, then only plug in the remaining 2GB.
Thankyou

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Any help would greatly be appreciated.

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For some reason this board is Bios only have IDE, RAID and ACHI and I don't see a SATA.
IDE, RAID and AHCI are operating modes of the SATA Controller. Everything okay here.
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Seems to me it's either this board and it's driver don't let you use the port multiplier but it suppose to support port multiplier.
It is neither the board, nor is it the driver. It is a limitation of the Intel ICH9R Chipset. You will have the same problem on all P35/ICH9R based mainboards. Read here:
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-788-view-intel-technology-matrix-RAID-and-port--multiplier.html
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Unfortunately, used in the south bridges ICH9R the version of such technology provides access only to one hard disk at the specific moment of time. . The technology became more complex to realize , which implies to several access disks simultaneously, possesses higher cost and more higher central processor loads , therefore it can be rejected.
Here is the same problem on a Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11892094
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Quote from: Sharp on 24-February-08, 00:09:47
Hello,
Could be a few things.
Make a list of everything that you are using with the board so that we know what you have.
EG, look at the bottom of my post.
Do you have a floppy drive?
http://www.memtest.org/download/2.01/memtest86+-2.01.floppy.zip
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- Run the install file and it will create a memtest boot disk for you.
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CD or USB versions available here.
http://www.memtest.org/#downiso
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Could be a weak power supply or you are using different branded memory modules.
And did you plug all the power connectors into the board?
- 24pin ATX
- 8pin +12v EPS connector
- Molex near the first PCIE x16 slot.
Just incase this thought has crossed your mind,
Do not attempt to the flash the BIOS until you know the system is 100% stable/working
Molex near PCI-E X16 slot? I didn't plug that in no. What's it for may I ask?

MSI P35 Neo2-FR + 2x2GB RAM

1. I'm about to order that combo (MSI P35 Neo2-FR and 2x2GB TeamGroup Elite PC2-6400U CL5-5-5-15), but before I hit the Buy button I want to ask if the MSI motherboard has any known problems with 2GB sticks.
I intend to run the system @ 400MHz FSB so the memory can run at its rated speed 1:1.
2. What BIOS version is recommended here?
3. Does anyone know if the Asus Triton 75 heatsink fits in between all those motherboard heatsinks and heatpipes?

Quote from: AaronYuri on 06-December-07, 04:39:02
Well if 2GB sticks didn't work good with the board what would be the point of the bundle?
I dont understand that remark. Thats the point of this thread, will 4GB work good on the MSI P35?
The CPU will be an E6550.
As for 400MHz, I really hope that MSI didnt make another P965 Platinum here, which has a poor overclocking potential. 400MHz FSB is nothing for my Abit QuadGT and most other P965/P35 based motherboards.
I will be really pissed if the P35 Neo2 wont be able to reach 400MHz FSB.

MSI P35 Neo2-FR and GeForce 8800GT?

Hello,
I am interested in buying MSI P35 Neo2-FR motherboard, and also the latest GeForce 8800GT. But after doing some research I notice that many people have having problems installing their 8800GT card into motherboards with a PCI-E 1.0a slots, and the Neo2-FR has 1.0a slots! However there seem to be exceptions, some motherboards with 1.0a slots work with 8800GT!
This is all very confusing
Can anyone verify that MSI P35 Neo2-FR motherboard and GeForce 8800GT (With PCI-E 2.0!) works in the 1.0a slot??
Thank you.

According to many sources, both personal and documentary, PCI-e 2.0 cards will work in PCI-e 1.X slots(Wikipedia is not exactly what I would consider a super source). Here's a more official source, PCI-SIG.
http://www.pcisig.com/news_room/faqs/pcie2.0_faq/
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Q4: It sounds as if both speed grades are supported in the PCIe 2.0 specification?
A4: The PCIe Base 2.0 specification supports both 2.5GT/s and 5GT/s signaling rates, in order to retain backward compatibility with existing PCIe 1.0 and 1.1 systems. Aside from the faster bit rate, there are a number of improvements in this new specification that allow greater flexibility and reliability in designing PCIe links. For example, the interconnect can be dynamically managed for platform power and performance considerations through software controls. Another significant RAS feature is the inclusion of new controls to allow a PCIe link to continue to function even when some lanes become non-operational.
Q5: Then PCIe 2.0 must be backward compatible with PCIe 1.1 and 1.0?
A5: Yes. The PCIe Base 2.0 specification supports both the 2.5GT/s and 5GT/s signaling technologies. A device designed to the PCIe Base 2.0 specification may support 2.5GT/s, 5GT/s or both. However, a device designed to operate specifically at 5GT/s must also support 2.5GT/s signaling. The PCIe Base specification covers chip-to-chip topologies on the system board. For I/O extensibility across PCIe connectors, the Card Electromechanical (CEM) and ExpressModule™ specifications will also need to be updated, but this work will not impact mechanical compatibility of the slots, cards or modules. Currently, the PCI-SIG is defining the PCIe CEM 2.0 specification which has been released to members for review at v0.5. There are currently no plans to adapt the PCIe Mini CEM specification for the faster bit rate as the market need has not yet materialized.
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Formed in 1992, PCI-SIG (originally formed as the Peripheral Component Interconnect Special Interest Group) is the industry organization chartered with the development and management of the PCI bus specification, the industry standard for a high-performance I/O interconnect to transfer data between a CPU and its peripherals. As part of that charter, the organization aims to do the following:
Support new requirements
Preserve backward compatibility for all PCI revisions
Maintain the specification as an easy-to-implement, stable technology
Contribute to the technical longevity of PCI
Support the establishment of PCI as an industry-wide standard

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Hello , I just bought a Msi p35 neo2 fr motherboard and I have this problem . My system randomly freezes ,no errors ,no blue
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MSI P35 Neo2-Fr -- can't get onboard audio device to appear in XP

I've just installed XP sp3 onto my new mobo (MSI P35 Neo2-Fr).
Attached is Q6600 core2 quad processor, 2GB memory (DDR2), ATI HD4850 gfx card. I haven't changed the bios much at all or overclocked anything yet.
All seems fine *except* that I can't windows XP to see that there's an onboard audio device.
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Quote from: Del UK on 05-September-08, 05:13:05
Had same issue with ATI card installed.
Go to Microsoft update and choose custom
You should see a list with hardware updates..........
After that, all will be fine
Hi there
Thanks for your reply. I went to MS updates, didn't see any in custom about hardware (apart from updated ethernet driver). Installed all updates anyway. And the problem remains...

E8200 Retail with MSI P35 Neo2-FR :

Thought of sharing with the guys here.
Test Setup :
E8200 w/Intel default cooler.
Msi P35 Neo2-Fr Bios v1.1/1.81b
Corsair 6400C4DHX 2GB
Msi 8800GT 512Mb -OC Edition(Red Juliet)
Hitachi 160Gb sata
Acbel iGold 550w
Neo2/platinum Users take note.
If you are on any bios earlier than v1.6.
Do not worry, it will still boot and run fine.
You can always flash the bios later.
Here are results for coolalar.com using E8400 with P35 Neo2-Fr :
http://www.coolaler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170745
Here's ours, but E8200.
Bios 1.1 works too.
Here are some default results of the processor :
We flashed to Bios v1.81b :
3Dmark06 : Higher cpu score
Cinebench r10 :

Pumped up some video clocks and slightly higher fsb.
511x8, 1.5v
3Dmark06 :
A final validation :
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=297680
The 6Mb is nice to have.
But if you are already using an E6750, don't think you will see much difference.
For low volts and operating temperatures,
The 45nm is good.
Ours is good at 3.6Ghz @ 1.25v(bios).
Neo2 users with more results can share here.
http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?p=26181870
Cheers! :D

MSI P35 Neo2-FR warranty

Hi
I have a MSI P35 Neo2-FR purchased in the UK, does anybody know the warranty length on this motherboard?
Thanks

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I don't think so. If it's long in stock at the reseller's, then the end-user wouldn't have any waranty left.
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Msi p35 neo2 fr, does it support sli?

I'm confused about the second pci-ex16 slot that says x4 mode. will this work for sli using two 880gt cards?
I'm struggling to find out any definate answers.
thanks guys

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I didn't know that the intel chips don't support sli, do you know why this is
This is true for all Intel chipset based boards (doesn't matter which brand/manufacturer). The reason? Since it was possible to enable SLI on Intel Chipset boards (e.g. 975X) with modded (unofficial) drivers with earlier nVidia cards (6/7 series), there is probably no true technical limitiation. It is all about marketing/competition if you ask me.
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a good mobo for around £100 that does support sli and has similar specs to the p35.
Look for a board with an nVidia P6N or P7N chipset if you really want SLI. The P7N SLI Platinum for example should be in your price range.
Have a look here:
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=prodpage2&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=170
Scroll down to MSI nVidia boards to compare specs. Look for this sign:
[as opposed to this one:]

MSI P35 Neo2 FR... DOA?

OKay, I just tried to set up this combo:
E6550
MSI P35 Neo2 FR
MSI HD 3850
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OCZ Stealthstream 600W
Unfortunately the system does nothing when I hit the power button. Only the standby LED is on, nothing else happens, not even the fans start spinning. The diagnostic LEDs dont light up either, simply nothing happens.
This is what I have already tried:
Different case, with different power button
Tried different RAM
I tried the PSU in another system, works flawlessly
I checked all cables and connections, everything is installed properly
I set the FSB jumper to 333MHz
But in general, if any other component would be faulty, the mobo would at least beep or the diagnostic LEDs would show a problem. But in this case the system refuses to start.
What could be the problem here?

Quote from: Streifenkarl on 09-December-07, 23:49:21
OKay, I just tried to set up this combo:
E6550
MSI P35 Neo2 FR
MSI HD 3850
2x2GB Teamgroup Elite CL5
OCZ Stealthstream 600W
Unfortunately the system does nothing when I hit the power button. Only the standby LED is on, nothing else happens, not even the fans start spinning. The diagnostic LEDs dont light up either, simply nothing happens.
This is what I have already tried:
Different case, with different power button
Tried different RAM
I tried the PSU in another system, works flawlessly
I checked all cables and connections, everything is installed properly
I set the FSB jumper to 333MHz
But in general, if any other component would be faulty, the mobo would at least beep or the diagnostic LEDs would show a problem. But in this case the system refuses to start.
What could be the problem here?
How high could your overclock with 2GBx2 RAM?

MSI P35 Neo2-FR with Quad 8300/8400 ?

Hello All,
could you please inform me if my motherboard P35 Neo2-FR will be compatible with INTEL Core2 Quad Q8300 or Q8400? If not what would be the best CPU for this motherboard.
I do not want to through away money.
Thank you very much.

Q8300 should with BIOS 1.9 & Q8400 with BIOS 1.A (1.10)
CPU support page for that MB is 4 years out of date though so it doesn't show them.
Update BIOS to latest and you should be able to use either one of them.
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P35-Neo2-FR---FIR.html#/?div=BIOS
>> Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher <<
Edit:
This is usually good website to check though I can't say it's 100% correct all of the time but I use it for reference on occasion as most of the time it's OK.
http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/P35_Neo2-FR___FIR.html

MSI P35 Neo2-FR / FIR

Hello,
Yesterday my pc didn't start and my motherboard status led were stuck on all green.After I turned off the PSU and turn it on again the leds went to all 4 red. After an hour of powering on and off ( and 1 CMOS reset) it went on red green red red (ram failure). I kept trying while changing the ram position around but no luck. While doing my attempts I notice that only a few times did the leds blink confirming that the their status changed. Also i noticed that when the leds blinked , the pc fans were making more noise, normal to when the pc is on and working. The other times i noticed that the leds just kept their old colors and the fans were a bit quite than normal.A few times the leds changed from red green red red to all 4 red (cpu failure) and with the fan noise like when pc is working normally.
The day before I had the same problem but I managed to start the pc within the first hour.
Now i'm stuck at all 4 reds with no status change on them and fan noise lower meaning i think that is not getting to the point where is checking the cpu,ram etc.
PC Configuration:
- Motherboard : MSI P35 Neo2-FR / FIR BIOS Vs : 1.C
- CPU : Intel e8400 no OC
- PSU : Fortron Blue Storm II 500 W
- GPU : Gainward ATI Radeon HD 4850 no OC
- RAM : 2x Corsair XMS2-6400 ver 5.4 no OC

Update:
I removed the battery and reset the CMOS. After 2-3 hours i reinserted the battery and now the status led blink once to red green red red ( ram failure). I had this ram failure problem for a long time but i used to fix it by a CMOS reset or a few movement of the rams and was fine for a couple of months until it resurfaces at random.
I have tried 2 different rams and the same led status show. Also when i press the reset button, in 3 seconds the PC shutdown and restarts. Before yesterday pressing reset was just making the motherboard restart and the leds were blinking once again to show the status change but now no blink on the leds when i press reset.

Msi p35 neo2 fr memory

I want to buy a msi p35 neo2 fr and a e2180 processors and i saw that on msi's memory list for this mobo there isn't any DDR II 800 mentioned for processors with 800 Mhz FSB .This means that the mobo doesn't work with DDR II 800 and a processor with 800 MHz FSB ?

it does work with DDR2 800 and 800mhz fsb.

Installing MSI P35 Neo2-FR

Hello
I'm installing Q6600 on my MSI P35 Neo2-FR mainboard. In the user guide it says (2-3, 2-4):
- "Make sure that you apply an even layer of thermal paste (or thermal tape) between the CPU and the heatsink to enhance heat dissipation"
- "Remember to apply some thermal paste on it for better heat dispersion"
- "Meanwhile, do not forget to apply some thermal paste on CPU before installing the heat sink/cooler fan for better heat dispersion."
I'm feeling less confident in installing my Q6600 now without this thermal paste, since it's explicitly *recommended* in the guide. What would happen if I did not apply the paste?

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What would happen if I did not apply the paste?
The heat the processor generates would not be properly dissipated to the heatsink. In a worst case scenario your CPU could shutdown automatically because of overheating and/or be damaged.
Have a look at your heatsink itself. Often thermal paste or some sort of thermal pad is pre-applied for easier installation.
If there is not such thing get some thermal paste before you install CPU+heatsink.

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