MSI P35 Paltinum ms 7345 - how to let it running 8 Gb Dimm ram

Hi All,
I have a problem, I have 4 x 2 Gb ram DIMM's Kingston KHX8500 D2/2G 2,3 V , the first couple were already in my hands bought a couple of years ago and the second couple just last week.
The problem is that the Bios counts correctly the total ram memory 8 Gb but my sistem is not able to bootstrap. I have installed OS Win 8.1 pro x64 and the sistem releases messages of various problem concerning kernel or usb system and also the bootstrap in safe mode ( F8) is not working.
Asap I remove 1 x Dimm for example, the one installed in 4th position the Bios correctly counts 6 Gb instead of 8 Gb and the system starts perfectly and runs stably. My Bios version is 1.12
I can think to some specific set-up into the Bios settings or I dont know what I have to do to achieve my system running all 8 Gb
Can someone let me know if there is a solution ?
Waiting for your valuable help, pls accept
my best regards
J.

Hi RemusM,
first thanks for your patience and continuos support: this encouraged me to proceed in testing the situation and I am going to report the following below listed, after the suggestions you wrote in your last post
1) I installed the NEW DIMM's memory kit (couple of 2 x 2 Gb ) those showed in the up side of the attached image in position 1 and 3 and they were running perfectly.
2) I removed those NEW Dimm's and installed in position 2 and 4 and they were NOT working, meant the pc cant bootstrap .
3) I installed the OLD couple of DIMM's (couple o 2 x 2Gb I bought several years ago showed in the down side of the attached image) in position 1 and 3 and they were working properly
4) I removed the OLD DIMM's from position 1 - 3 and re-installed in position 2 - 4 and those were working properly
5) I left my OLD DIMM's in position 2 - 4 and installed the NEW kit in position 1 - 3 so all the positions into the mainboard were used but the pc was NOT able to bootstrap
6) Finally I stopped the pc and removed ONLY the NEW DIMM's from position 1 - 3 and restarted the pc that runs fine !
What I can outline is that the NEW DIMM's are not working in positions 2 - 4 so as per point (5) I left the Old ones that were working properly in postion 2 - 4 and installed the New ones that were working properly before alone in position 1 - 3 again in this position but no way for the pc to bootstrap.
I left for now on a side what concerns the settings 6-6-6-18 and voltage 1,9 because what, I repeat, is surprising me is that the New kit is working fine in position 1 - 3 and NOT in 2 - 4 on the countrary the Old kit runs perfectly in both 1 - 3 and 2 - 4 .
That's it !
Regards
J.

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3. Yes
Thankyou
Quote from: Maesus on 28-November-07, 19:33:33
4. it's not really compatibility issue, but more of Vista's own issue, just that you need to do the right step to get Vista installed. Quad Core + 4GB, well, microsoft acknowledge the Vista installation issues with this config. You will need Vista 64-bit, but start installing with 1GB or 2GB. After completing installation, install microsoft quad core and 4GB patches, then only plug in the remaining 2GB.
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MSI P35 Neo-F (MS-7360): Computer randomly freezes while playing games

Hi there,
I have reached the end of my technical knowledge right now and I'm not even sure if this area of the forum is appropriate. The problem:
While playing higher-end games like Crysis 2, Anno 1404, Mass Effect 2 etc. my computer randomly freezes and the last few milliseconds of sound are being looped on my speakers (kind of like a buzzing sound).
By "freezing" I mean that my computer becomes unresponsive to any action other than pressing the Reset-Button or holding down the Power-Up-Button (no reaction to Ctrl+Alt+Del, Alt+F4, Alt+Tab, no mouse movement... you get it).
There's no exact timing as to when these freezes occur. The fastest freeze happened after less than a minute of playing a game, slowes one (just today after switching to my newer case with better cooling) took about 2 hours.
This freeze only occurs while my System is under load. No freezes while browsing the web, using office programs, listening to music or watching videos.
System Specs:
Mainboard: MSI P35 Neo-F (MSI-7360)
CPU: Intel Core2Quad Q6600 @2.4GHz
RAM: 4x 1GB DDR2-800 Corsair XMS2
Graphics: Gainward GeForce GTX 560 Ti, 1GB GDDR5 VRAM
PSU: Antec High Current Gamer 620W (upgraded from Xilence XP600, 600W)
New CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 13 Pro (upgraded from OEM Intel Boxed Cooler)
New Case: Zalman Z9 Plus w/ 4x 120 mm Fans (Upgraded from a Case with only 1x 250mm side Fan)
2 Western Digital HDD (1x 2TB, 1x320 GB)
1 DVD Reader/Burner (unimportant for that error I guess)
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit
2 Screens: 1x 24" Asus VS248H and 1x 21" LG Flatron Wide W2240T
Since this error is bugging me for quite a while now and since this is not the first forum I'm trying to get help from, here's a list of steps i already took to get rid of it, obviously to no good use:
reinstalled games where the freeze occurred
updated all Drivers (including cleaning old versions in safe mode; also tried older drivers)
updated BIOS to v1.A0
Reinstalled Windows
bought new Case and CPU Cooler to improve Air Flow/Cooling
checked Seating of all components (took out, cleaned, reapplied thermal grease where neccessary, re-inserted)
cleaned old case of dust (obviously no problem in the new case, which is 2 days "old")
ran 7 sequences of Memtes86+ without any errors
ran Prime95 without any errors for about 45 Minutes
ran Furmark for 15 Minutes under full load (burn-in test) without any problems, even though my graphics card hit the 100°C frequency-cut level
ran Furmark and Prime95 simultaneously without any problems
took records of component temperatures and system voltages without noticing anything unusual (at least not after i switched to the newer PSU, which is about 1 Month old - yet didn't resolve the problem)
tested with cyclic removal of 1 RAM device to further rule out RAM malfunction
tested with only 2 RAM devices in dual channel mode (Slots 1 and 3)
tried to reduce RAM clock (800 MHz --> 667 MHz) to no avail
checked S.M.A.R.T. values of HDDs, no issues reported
tested without any background programs
raised/lowered voltages to RAM, CPU and Chipset in BIOS to increase logic circuit stability/decrease heat production
I need to mention: After I transferred my system to the new case, i was able to play longer than average compared to my old case. So I am guessing that improper cooling was part of the problem, yet improving cooling obviously didn't resolve it.
Since these freezes are really annoying and nobody could help me resolve this so far, I'm hoping to find some new ways of narrowing down the problem or even getting rid of it here.
Regards
Sebb

Quote from: Bernhard on 10-July-12, 13:15:30
Lets be realistic. A system with a 560TI is recommended to have a around 31Amps under full load, a CX500 would be sufficient.
Have you monitored your CPU and memory utilisation ?
As suggested before, test the GPU in another computer to see if the behaviour is the same.
Whew, I thought for a second there that my common sense had left me when I saw that 60-Amp-Post ^^
Yes, I monitored CPU and RAM usage, there is no recognizeable pattern to be seen and it almost never happens under full load.
I will see if a friend of mine can test my GPU on his computer, and I will test it underclocked right away.
Though one more question regarding that: Should I only underclock GPU Core Clock or both Core and RAM clock?

Problem installing MSI P35 Platinum & MSI NX8600GT & windows XP

Hi all,
I just bought my MSI P35 platinum mobo and MSI NX8600GT graphics card.
Was trying to install XP on it. During installation, got the following error message :
A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.
If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen, restart your computer. If this appears again, follow these steps:
Check to be sure you have adequate disk space. If a driver is identified in the Stop message, disable the driver or check with the manufacturer for driver updates. Try changing video adapters.
Check with your hardware vendor for any BIOS updates. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then select Safe Mode.
Technical Information:
*** Stop : 0X0000007E (0XC0000005, 0XF748E0BF, 0XF78DA208, 0XF78D9F08)
*** pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, DateStamp 3b7d855c
Then it just freezes there. Any ideas how I can resolve this ? Please help
Thanks ...

Quote from: NovJoe on 07-February-08, 00:17:44
Please post your full system specs and PSU specs amps.
Moan Guide
my system specs
Intel Pentium 4 - Intel E8200, LGA775 2.66GHz, 6MB L2 cache, 1333 Mhz FSB, 45nm
MSI P35 Platinum
3 x 1GB DDR2 Kingston 6400 CL5 800MHz
320GB Seagate SATA HDD
MSI NX8600GT 256MB
Windows XP Pro
PSU : I-CUTE ATX-450W/P4
The HDD was detected correctly in BIOS, memory also detected, Graphics card seems ok (how I can tell ?)
rgds

VCORE PROBLEMS WITH MSI P35 NEO F

To see if I can help or at least explain what's happening, buy a MSI P35 NEO F for using a quad, the topic is as follows handling vcore is rare
First thing I can not put less voltage that the cpu brings default, second what happens next if bios setting 1.3250 vcore for Quad, once in both windows everest, cpuz, like others programs tell me that this placed on 1.40 vcore which is excessive for the speed at which the quad, this is so in this mobo? Their story that was installed version 1.20 bios which handled vcore%, the upgrade to version 1.40 and is now handled in decimals (numbers) vcore, but still the problem
You pull more vcore which setting in bios and if you want to download the vcore eg put 1.26 vcore not let you because it takes the vcore default of cpu minimum.
i'm not crashing or problems with the temperatures, but nobody likes to have more vcore's necessary.
Wonder because being rookie of this mobo, maybe there's some bios version that fixes this bug or someone knows something else, thank you guys
C2Q Q6600
2 X 1GB G.SKILL 6400
PSU 550 MODULAR TOPOWER
-- SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH --

You can slap 1.6v in that CPU and temps won't rise that much.
Core 2 Duo/Quad operates @ 1.250-1.425, anywhere in between those values is perfectly stable for Intel stock cooler and frequency.
Absolutely nothing to worry about. But if you want to complain about >1c I really can't see the sense in that.

Need Help with ESATA on MSI P35 Neo2-FR

I have the MSI P35 Neo2-FR motherboard http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=&prod_no=1261 and trying to get the eternal ESATA to work. It works with one individual HD. I'm using an external ESATA drive with 3 HD inside the external case with one cable running into the external ESATA in the back of the motherboard. It's only recognizing 1 drive and the other 2 isn't showing up. If I switch it to USB connection it will read all 3 drives. I'm running windows 7 x64 but it recognize on my other 2 computers with a different motherboard. I have install it with the ACHI setup in Bios and I've also install the Matrix Storage Controller after installation. I never install the Intel ICH9R SATA RAID driver where you have to press the F6 to install it. Is that what I'm missing and is taht needed for the ESATA to work? I'm getting this message "A storage device was connected. If this device is a port multiplier, only port 0 of the port multiplier will be active." Been googling all day and still can't figure out what I'm missing.
Any help would greatly be appreciated.

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For some reason this board is Bios only have IDE, RAID and ACHI and I don't see a SATA.
IDE, RAID and AHCI are operating modes of the SATA Controller. Everything okay here.
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Seems to me it's either this board and it's driver don't let you use the port multiplier but it suppose to support port multiplier.
It is neither the board, nor is it the driver. It is a limitation of the Intel ICH9R Chipset. You will have the same problem on all P35/ICH9R based mainboards. Read here:
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-788-view-intel-technology-matrix-RAID-and-port--multiplier.html
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Unfortunately, used in the south bridges ICH9R the version of such technology provides access only to one hard disk at the specific moment of time. . The technology became more complex to realize , which implies to several access disks simultaneously, possesses higher cost and more higher central processor loads , therefore it can be rejected.
Here is the same problem on a Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11892094
Nothing you can do about it.

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