MSI P35 Platinum - No fans so no additional Cooling Needed?

Hello,
With the idea of supporting a quiet but powerful system, I had intended to buy the MSI 875X Platinum, but I just saw the new passively cooled MSI P35 Platinum. Can I really get by using the MSI P35 Platinum with no fans or additional cooling, running:
-Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe Processor 2.4GHz, 1066FSB
-4GB Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 DDR2-800
-MSI GeForce 8600 GTS NX8600GTS-T2D256EZ-HD Video Card
-Zalman ZM600-HP HeatPipe Cooled 600w PSU
I won't be overclocking; I'd just like an updated, quiet system with power to spare; will be used for photoshop.
Any other comments? Thx.
Scott

Quote from: jsmartin22 on 10-June-07, 22:12:51
Good suggestion; I was unaware of the SilenX Fans, but I reviewed and get the idea--they are excellent for low noise applications, and this is exactly what I want! Thx.
Scott
For those who don't know the Antec P180/P182 has the PSU in a separate chamber at the bottom of the case so it can chuck the cpu's heat straight out of two 120mm fans in top and rear. There is also a 3rd 120mm fan in lower chamber blowing onto the PSU. All three Antec fans are fitted with HI-Med-Low switches. I find Low to be good.
120mm fans push a decent amount of air on low RPM and are much quieter than 90mm.
There is room to fit two more of your own fans on the Upper HD cage. One to draw air in from the front of the case and one that blows straight on the graphics card. If you use both at once it creates a wind tunnel but means you cannot use it for hard drives. Although you could just fit the front fan and have it blow across your HD. I have my disks in the lower chamber to keep their heat away from the motherboard, and have done the wind tunnel option.
If I could change one thing I would have bought slower RPM or adjustable extra fans because they are louder than the built in Antec fans.
Hope this makes sense lol.
To be honest, you don't really need the extra fans if silence is more important, but my room is very warm and I plan to overclock.

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MSI P35 Platinum EEPROM

Hi, I need some information urgently. My friend owns the Asus M4A79 Deluxe motherboard. I'ts about 2 weeks old now, and he tried to mod his BIOS. It failed, because he didn't follow my precise instructions. Now, he has nothing more than a piece of paper, it's dead.
Is there anyone that can tell me where I can find the EEPROM of my MSI P35 Platinum motherboard? Where is the EEPROM located on the MS-7345 motherboard? I know it'll be an 8-pin IC, which is soldered to the board.
My idea is to do a hotflash, i want to desolder my BIOS chip & solder a IC holder to the board, then, use my mobo as an EEPROM Programmer. I don't want to disasemble my whole PC just to find out that the EEPROM is integrated in the chipset, so if possible, can anyone tell me wheter the MSI P35 Platinum has an EEPROM located on the board & where exactly can I find it?

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I was wondering, isn't it possible to connect his BIOS chip to my motherboard's JSPI1 connector & program it from there?
I highly doubt that. But even if that was possible, how would you want to establish communication from (let's say) DOS to whatever you connect to the JSPI1 header?
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but it's not 100% straight forward, I'll have to read up on this.
I am sure, you will figure it out.
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Also, I'll build the LPT circuit as soon as I have time, but with which tool will I reprogram the chip with?
Oh, you will definately find it, once you do some reading (there are direct links to it in the articles I pointed you to). However, here is a link to the English Download Site of the Czech Programmer that made it:
http://www.volny.cz/rayer/programm/programe.htm
Scroll down until you see a tool called SPIPGM in the list.
When I used the an older version of the tool (after building the described SPI Cable) to reprogram the BIOS Chip of my P45 Platinum after a bad flash, the tool did not entirely support the chip yet (Macronix MX25L3205 in my case). However, it was able to detect it anyway (FlashROM JEDEC ID: EF3016h) and when it does not know its size it will simply prompt you to enter it.
An additional alternativ, which may actually be the fastest way to fix things, would be to simply order a new chip and have it programmed for you with a working BIOS Image. I don't know where you live and what places there are near you that offer this kind of service. Over here in Germany, I know at least one place that does this kind of stuff:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bios-fix.de%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct_info.php%3FcPath%3D1_28%26products_id%3D139
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I was considering to use an old ATi Graphics Card as an EEPROM Programmer, since it also has an 8-pin EEPROM with the exact same pinout. The hardware is not problem, I can quickly assemble it, but the software would be the problem, ATi's tools wont program an 8-megabit (1 megabyte) BIOS chip?
Another thing, the LAN ROM of the P35 Platinum, that can also be used?
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Mine is an Enermax EG701AX-VE (600W) the fan was noisy and did get a bit rattly in my previous P4N Diamond 7160 + Northwood EE set up and the exhaust air was very warm. Since I upgraded to the P35 Platinum 7345 + Q6600 the fan is now quiet as I can turn it down to minimum and the exhaust air is still cool.
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Hi all,
I just bought my MSI P35 platinum mobo and MSI NX8600GT graphics card.
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A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.
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Quote from: NovJoe on 07-February-08, 00:17:44
Please post your full system specs and PSU specs amps.
Moan Guide
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And the LED3 lightis always RED.
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MSI P35 Platinum keeps crashing

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So ill just leave them at 800mhz.
Should i just change the FSB Ratio to lower the RAM to 800MHZ?
Leo,
Use the BIOS default settings.
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Do not mess up the FSB. INTEL E6750 is a great processor.
You need stability, not troubles!
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i have the same problem, but with WINTEC AMPX 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) 5-5-5-15 v2.2
The same situation: you bought a pair of factory-overclocked DDR2-800 memory modules.
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Msi P35 platinum: bios auto-raises NB & SB voltages when fsb over 316

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Of course, I can try to lower these settings back to normal but never tried.. I've just left these raised voltage settings because everything is running fine (now E2140@2816MHz,352FSB). But are these settings safe (NB 1,45V and SB I/O 1,8V) ??
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this is probably due to overclock jumper's setting for FSB STRAP(200/266/333).
With my Neo 2 Fr (pretty similar) about the same happen to me but at 382...then I moved the jumper to the 333 setting (see manual) and no more change in voltage of NB and SB over 382.
If you do so, be careful on your setting before the change of position of the jumper as it automaticaly add 67 mhz to the FSB and so the system may not start because of too high cpu freq. Be careful also on memory multiplier (before the change set it to 1:1 or calculate the ram freq. (FSB+67 mhz and your memory multiplier)) as the system may not start because of the RAM.
However even if it not start after 2-3 reboot it start in safe mode(as after OC) and you can change the settings.
My advice:I think your cpu fsb by default is 200, if so and if you don't plan to go over 382 set the jumper to 266 (you should be ok with voltages until 382mhz of FSB.
Always remember what said over about the +67 mhz on FSB when you move the jumper!!!!

[MSI P35 Platinum] Graphics Card Slot

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I just bought the MSI 560 GTX graphics card. My motherboard is MSI P35 Platinum so i was wondering if i can place the graphics card in the 2nd PCI-E slot or this could occure problems. This is my motherboard:
so my question is: can i put the graphics card in the YELLOW slot? Cause it won't fit in the upper PCI... Thanks

Quote from: Jack on 03-September-11, 19:12:09
Why doesn't it fit? It should fit without problems.
Because of the I/O controller (i think this is it...)
Quote from: Jack on 03-September-11, 19:12:09
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It felt like a lot of pressure, just make sure your two notches are lined up and grunt like a man.

Settings (kindly) requested for MSI P35 Platinum & Q6600 @ 3.6GHz/1600MHz fsb

I want to try to get my Q6600 processor up from 3.0 to 3.6 GHz, though I'd appreciate to get a clue to what settings might be the goal. I have little experience with overclocking, but I think 3.6GHz is a realistic goal.
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multiplier x9
memory auto
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SB io V= 1.7 (default=1.5)
SB V= 1.05 (default=1.05)
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Being somewhat in a hurry, and being a newb, I tried getting the Q6600 to work at 3.6Ghz (400/1600MHz fsb, mult x9), but I couldnt make it stable with Prime95.
Lowering it down to 3.4Ghz seem to be really ok, and it has been stable for some time in Vista x64. Seems i can stick with this and mabye try to tweak it a little later.
I still would like to hear from anyone running the MSI P35 Platinum with Q6600 at 3.6 with air cooling, and learn about their voltages.
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SB i/o = 1.7
SB core = 1.15
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Prime95 torture test, core temps, small FFT test (first one listed) = 61-61-67-67 (WinXP32)
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I guess I should lower the cpu voltage to try lower the temperature if this thing stays stable the next 12 hours.

Does GTX 275 fit in MSI P35 Platinum MB ?

My P35 Platinum MB needs a new graphics card, the GTX 275 looks like a nice candidate, but as it is a dual width slot card, I'm afraid it will collide with the rather high protruding north/southbridge chip cooler.
Does anyone know or has experience with this combo ? It seems that because of the length of that card 2 SATA connectors cannot be used anyway ...
Any recommendations maybe for something similarly powerful that might fit ?

Well, I don't have any experience with this combination, but it looks like it will fit and that you will still be able to use all your SATA-ports.
When you look at the card's cooler (I looked at the Lightning), you will see that there's a piece taken out just at the place where the sata-connectors are on the mainboard.
But if you want to be 100% sure, ask your retailer to test it and let them guarentee that it will fit, so you can send the card back if you run into any trouble.

MSI P35 Platinum Combo and kingston DDR3 1066MHZ not working

Hi
I've tried Kingston KVR1066D3S8N7/2G (2gb 1066mhz PC3-8500 NON-ECC CL7 240-Pin DIMM) and MB didnt even boot.
I installed the dimms as its done in msi MB manual.
Same result with two same ddr3 dimms.
BIOS v.1.30 and CPU Intel Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Can someone please tell me should this ram work with this MB or not :(
Thanks in advance

Hi I have this exact same Kingston DDR3 ram as Jeff mentioned and same processor and motherboard. Bios v1.3, and even my PC wont display anything, the CPU fan is working the LEDs are on inside the cabinet. But its like the Screen gets no signal. I tried with Single stick and still no results. However it works fine with DDR2 ram. Please some1 suggest a solution.

2 problems with MSI P35 Platinum

1. WD hard disk, 200GB, JS series - is not seen either in BIOS or XP Professional when plugged in the Marvell 88SE6111 SATA. this hard disk works just fine when plugged in the Intel ICH9R managed SATA ports. 2 WD IDE hard disks are properly seen and work just fine plugged in the IDE controller, also managed by Marvell 88SE6111.
2. fan RPM is not reported for sys fans, they are getting power though from the 3-pin connectors. the only speed reported is for CPU cooler fan.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

I would, but there is no Marvell driver on the CDs that came with the MB. Nor on the MB webpage.
Got a driver from ASUS, which apparently every MSI user is doing too, tried installing under XP. It showed up in Device Manager, but with it the PC no longer boots. It has a reset loop, guess the rumors about the problems caused by the Marvell 88SE6111 are true.
About the fans I found out that the 3-pin connectors above the PCI Express slot monitor RPM. None of the other 3 do. Quite strange though: Speedfan shows 4 speeds, MB monitors 3, and MB has 5 3-pin conector.

MSI P35 Platinum + Q9550 CPU + 4x1GB RAM

Greetings!
I just upgraded my system by changing just the CPU, from E6550 to Q9550, and having some small problems.
The past:
My system was stable with the E6550 and the 4x1GB RAM sticks (Kingston, 667MHz), with the only negligible issue being that during POST it momentarily stuck (e.g. for a fraction of a second) at ~3100MB before sweeping the entire 4096MB of memory and proceeding with loading the OS (Win7x64). I've never had any weird BSOD issues and never done any OC (on CPU, RAM nor VGA).
The present:
Problem is that, now, with the Q9550, system wont POST with all four of the 1GB sticks plugged; it stops/freezes at ~3316MB (if I hit ESC or DEL during RAM-sweep it blacks out and goes off-power) before the "beep". Needless to say that I can't even access the BIOS menu in this configuration. Removing one 1GB stick, specifically from slot #2 (counting from the CPU), thus running at 3x1GB, allows for normal boot. In this configuration, the new CPU model is properly recognized by both POST and BIOS, but the CPU multiplier is reported wrongly in the BIOS settings (x7 instead of x8.5), just like it "remembers" my old CPU's setting. How can I check, within the OS, that the frequency is the right one? Many programs report it correctly (e.g. CPU-ID or Windows), but there's the chance that they're just stating the nominal spec of the CPU model...
Any clues on how to address these two problems?
My (small) troubleshooting:
I am wearing the latest official BIOS, version 1.C (or 1.12, dated 2009-12-30), that hasn't given me any cause to worry about, in the last 3 years.
The system worked fine before (w the E6550 CPU) on the 4x1GB RAM, so I am kinda excluding the case of a "bad" slot or stick. I haven't (and don't wanna) undertake the tedious task of trying all possible permutations of 4 slots & 4 sticks. Please note that the RAM sticks are same brand, size and frequency, but the model-numbers might not be exactly the same (one pair was bought in 2007, the other in 2011).
When booting with 3x1GB RAM, and running some benchmarks from the OS (PassMark PerformanceTest, Prime95) reveals that CPU is working fine. Only problem is that its temps are a little on the hot-side (40-45C@idle, 65C+@load, at ~25C+ ambient, on stock cooler) and the CPU benchmark scores are 5-10% below the average-baseline; however, these issues worry me not because the CPU was used (got it from eBay for $90).
My PSU is a 550W HEC, and the rest of my system comprises a HD4850/1GB VGA, two HDDs (WDs, one of them a "green"), one SSD (Intel/60GB) and a DVD-writer.
Any ideas?
I am hoping that there's some BIOS tweak I can make in order to re-recognize all my RAM with the least possible hardware changes and operations. Maybe re-flash the current BIOS, or try to roll-back a version? Will tweaking the RAM settings (voltages, freqs) help any? Is that do-able on the P35 board? My last (money-costing) option is going for new 2x2GB RAM sticks, which I evidently want to avoid...
Thanks for your help!

OK, I've had some time in the weekend and I did my tests, that seem successful Yay!
A. New CPU multiplier mis-identification in BIOS (7x instead of 8.5x) -- This was fixed by clearing the CMOS (as RemusM suggested, using the on-board button) and then "Loading Optimized Defaults" by the main BIOS menu. Apart from the time/date and boot-order, the only other thing I had to change was the On-Chip ATA Devices RAID mode (enable AHCI), to allow the SSD drive where my OS is stored to boot normally.
B. POST stopping with 4x1GB RAM sticks -- The above BIOS-related changes didn't help here. So, I undertook the task of checking each RAM stick alone with MemTest86 (as XFM suggested). To this end, I plugged each stick in Slot#1 (DIMM_A1) and no errors were found, for a one-pass test, for all four sticks; evidently, my RAM sticks were fine. I then tried some permutations of the four sticks and the four slots and, lo and behold, one of them, worked! Please note that my four RAM sticks were purchased in two kits of 2x1GB, that were equal brand/size/frequency and the serial numbers were almost the same (apart from the last 2-3 digits in a series of 10-15 characters). The sticks looked similar even to the bare eye (very similar PBC "routes", chip placement etc). The only difference was the date, 2007-vs-2011.
For what it's worth, the non-working combination was:
   DIMM_A1 : Kit#1 (2007) / Stick#1
   DIMM_A2 : Kit#2 (2011) / Stick#1
   DIMM_B1 : Kit#1 (2007) / Stick#2
   DIMM_B2 : Kit#2 (2011) / Stick#2
while the working combination is:
   DIMM_A1 : Kit#2 (2011) / Stick#1
   DIMM_A2 : Kit#2 (2011) / Stick#2
   DIMM_B1 : Kit#1 (2007) / Stick#1
   DIMM_B2 : Kit#1 (2007) / Stick#2
(i.e. the two sticks of the same kit were placed in the same RAM Channel slots: the Green and the Orange)
Nevertheless, one mystery remains unsolved: In the fast-sweep of the RAM during the POST, the check still stops/pauses at ~3320MB but, fortunately, it proceeds to sweep the entire 4096MB and then boot the OS normally! The duration of this "pause" is maybe a little longer than it used to with the old CPU: it now last up to one full second while it use to pause for only a fraction of a second. I can't help but correlate this pause location (at ~3300MB) with the maximum RAM that is "recognized" by 32-bit OS...
Anyway, thanks for all your help! Hopefully this thread might help other guys with similar problems.

MOVED: MSI P35 Platinum + Vista x64, weird problems (random lockups) + unable to update

This topic has been moved to Vista problems.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=111652.0

Quote from: AaronYuri on 22-November-07, 03:28:52
Well it's simple. Use the BIOS that works best for you. Anyone here will tell you that.
Yeah, I didn't think on that...
Quote from: AaronYuri on 22-November-07, 03:28:52
This is a User-to-user Forum. You will find no MSI employees here.
It's really a shame, because the domain is from MSI, the forum use official MSI brand, the host is payed by MSI, so any moderator here is representing indirectly the company and MSI is responsible of all the forum content and his representatives.
Quote from: AaronYuri on 22-November-07, 03:28:52
EDIT: Just so you know, MSI don't go for bleeding edge. MSI go for the server and OEM market, where there is more money to be had. Asus, Gigabyte and DFI target the ethusiast market. But as ethusiasts only make up <5% of the market, your opinion won't sway that many.
Yes, you're right! Like any customer here I'm no one and nobody gives a about my opnion and my money wasted on a MSI product because the company only gives a on OEM market!
Wonderful tought! God bless you soul and from MSI.
I'll need it because only money it's the important, the company image not. Isn't that right?
Quote from: AaronYuri on 22-November-07, 03:28:52
But as for the rest, it's down to your opinion. I recommend all my customers MSI hardware, because you get quality support (this forum) and a fast & friendly RMA service.
A company is as good as it's support.
Wonderful support.
I imagine if I am a president of a big brazilian PC manufacturer, because the sells of computers in Brazil in that year beats any market in world, and then I see all this bullshit happening from MSI side, then I turn my attention on Gigabyte or Asus (they too act on OEM market and give more attention to your customers).

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