MSI P45 Neo3-FR is underclocking my CPU when idle

I've noticed when running CPU-ID or MSI's "Dual Core Center" app that when my system is idling, it will change my CPU's multiplier from 9 to 6, which makes my 3ghz E8400 run at 2ghz. Now I'm sure this is a great way to save energy, but I would like a choice whether it's enabled or not. Is there any way to disable this?

There are only two kinds of "natural" explanation for such a phenomenon:
-> a CPU power saving feature is enabled (EIST/SpeedStep [Cell Menu] and/or C-States [Cell Menu] and/or C1E-Support [CPU-Features])
-or-
-> the processor is overheating (the Core Temperatures have risen to a critical level (approaching the shutdown point) causing the processor to automatically clock itself down and lower the Core Voltage to cool down.

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Need help with MSI P45 Neo3-FR

I haven't been here in a long time. My old board (just replacing it) worked perfectly for almost 4 years after I ironed out the kinks (MSI 865p Neo2-FISR) but I finally decided to upgrade my rig, but here comes the headaches...
I bought the following for my new setup:
MSI P45 Neo3-FR (came with BIOS 1.3 installed)
2GB (2x1) Corsair Dominator 6400C4D
MSI Radeon HD 4850
Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 (I want to overclock it hehe)
Lite-On SATA CD/DVD-RW
Old Hardware being used:
Antec TruPower 550W EPS12 (single rail 36amps on +12)
Cooler Master Centurion (forgot what model) Case
Logitech USB Keyboard
Logitech MX518 USB Mouse
2x120mm fans
2xMaxtor SATA 80GB HDDs (note: NOT SATA II, and I want to run these in RAID 0 off the ICH10R, this is specifically why I bought this board I was going to go with the P43-Neo3 over this, but the inclusion of RAID sold me on it)
1xMaxtor SATA 160GB HDD (note: NOT SATA II)
Aside some trouble I had with the Intel HSF installation was a breeze. Everything is in. I wanted to run everything stock first. Jumped into the BIOS and set the following:
SATA Controller - RAID
DRAM Voltage - 2.1v
Drive Layout:
SATA1 - 80GB Maxtor
SATA2- 80GB Maxtor
SATA7 - Optical Drive
SATA8 - 160GB Maxtor
First power on to get into the BIOS was quick. After setting SATA to RAID, POST will hang at Auto-Detecting ACHI Port 1....then find HDD after about 20-30 seconds. And it will repeat itself for Port 2. So its taking me close to a minute (I might be exagerrating but it sure isn't quick and long enough to irritate me having to keep booting) just to POST and even access the BIOS.
Tried to use my current Windows XP install, got to the Windows XP Splash screen and it rebooted. Tried again, with super long ass POST, again rebooted at the splash screen. Said, fine I'll reinstall XP.
While browsing here I forgot where I read about the SATA and long posts, so I changed my 2x80GBs to SATA3 and SATA4, it no longer takes a minute to POST, goes quick as normal.
Set Optical to boot, go into the Windows XP Install screen, F6 for custom drivers, made a RAID disc using three sources (1. RAID drivers from MSI Website, 2. RAID drivers from MSI CD included with Motherboard, 3. RAID Drivers from Intel website) and each time at a certain point I'd get a BSOD.
Tried again by moving my last HDD/Optical to the ICH10 and disabled the Jmicron. Same, BSOD.
Switched off RAID in the BIOS and set it to IDE. AGain BSOD at XP Install.
Started to think it was a Memory issue, ran Memtest both sticks passed.
One thing I noticed in the BIOS, it has my RAM clocked at 1066. Everything is on auto minus the voltage, but I didn't think it would affect it. So I changed the Ratio from auto to 1:2 (800mhz CPU:800mhz DRAM) but still BSOD everytime I try to install Windows.
This is getting frustrating. I've run out of ideas. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 02-August-08, 22:07:06
Read here how to do it:
>>> Slipstreaming Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Create Bootable CD<<<
>>> Slipstreamed Windows XP CD Using SP2<<<
Other option is borrow such installation disk from friends.
I moved away from my "friends" and none PC literate, so I'd be better off driving to the store and buying Vista at this point. Haha.
Okay, going to try this...sounds like that project I started a whiles back but got lazy.
Thanks guys, I'll report any results.

MSI P45 Neo3-FR..Overclocking help please !

Hi i have a MSI P45 Neo3-FR [v1.0] and have managed to update bios to latest version 1.5 i am having trouble finding my way around the bios in order to overclock. Previously i have owned asus boards and it was pretty straightforward but with this board i cannot seem to have full control over all adjustments i think i could adjust fsb and possibly memory ratio and timings but not Vcore and memory voltages as they are greyed out. On the asus boards you got a dropdown list 1.1v~1.8v etc but i cannot get this option with this board.
My memory is corsair [6400] with cpu-z it seems to have timings correct but voltage should be 1.9 my cpu is a E8200 core speed 2673x8 vcore 1.192v i have disabled speedstep [f4] and spread spectrum and the jumpers are set to 266mhz~333mhz.
Any advice on this much appreciated i don't know if there is a tutorial specific to the msi bios advanced settings and how to enable it or a discription of what msi call the voltages adjustments doesn't seem to be v.core...confused!
King regards all

Thanks for help people i have got a good overclock..well for me I got FSB to 400mhz so my processor was 3.2ghz and memory running at 800mhz with 1:1 ratio and voltage at 1.9.
I did try to go heigher but pc just re-booted 3 times then re-set to optimum i tried a bit more voltage for cpu but it still refused. Funny thing is when i re-did FSB to 400mhz again it booted and ran no bother i checked speed and cpu was again 3.2ghz but ram was 960mhz ... i forgot to re-set ratio back to 1:1 so my ram is running at 1920mhz instead of 1600 testing with prime but i would have thought if its stable i could push cpu further possibly as i know ram can handle a lot more than 800mhz. Is this correct ?

MSI P45 NEO3 + Q8200: Enabling Virtualization?

My system is:
MSI P45 NEO3 (BIOS AMI 2.61)
Intel Q8200
I have tried for the last hour to download a newer BIOS version but the website is down.
I am running ESXi 4.0 and when I try to create a 64 server 2003 virtual machine it tells me that my host does not support 64 bit, please enable VT
The processor supports it, please tell me how it has been solved since it seems to have been in PM's.
Many thanks

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The processor supports it
No, it doesn't. The Intel Q8200 Quad Core Processor does not support Virtualization Technology:
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2quad/specifications.htm
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=36547
As long as you use a Q8200 you will be unable to take advantage of VT (no matter what board or BIOS you use). The only way to solve this is to install a processor that supports VT.
One more thing:
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MSI P45 NEO3 (BIOS AMI 2.61)
That is not your BIOS Version. To check your current BIOS Version, please look under Standard CMOS Features -> System Information in the BIOS Setup.
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I have tried for the last hour to download a newer BIOS version but the website is down.
No BIOS Update will make your Q8200 support VT. The CPU simply does not support this feature.
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please enable VT
Impossible.

Motherboard MSI P45 neo3-fr do not start up issue

Hi people, I just bought a new motherboard "MSI P45 neo3-fr". After installing the cpu E5200, videocard,dvd rom and hardisk, I switch it on only the cpu fan, videocard fan are running and the 4 blue led lit up. Even when i press the dvd button to open, it doesn't. Tried checking the harddisk n videocard with another computer and they are working. Ohh, I forgot to mention that I've inserted a 2GB kingston DDR2-667 ram already. Strange thing is, when I unplug the IDE cable from the dvd rom, and press the open button, the dvd rom open.
Is there something wrong with the motherboard or there's a mistake on the installation that I did. I'm really confused!!!

Okay, the specs are:
CPU - Intel pentium dual-core E5200 2.5 GHz, fsb 800MHz, cache 2mb
Motherboard - MSI P45 Neo3-FR
Memory - 1x2GB kingston ddr2 - 667
Video card - Inno3D 256mb ddr2 PCI-E
Harddisk - Samsung 160GB/7200rpm/8M
Power supply unit - Aido ATX 450W
+12V 25A
+5V 40A
+3.3V 28A
-5V 0.5A
-12V 0.8A
+5V/SB 2.0A

MSI P45 Neo3 FR PCB1.0 & memory timings problem

I recently upgraded my motherboard from the P35 Neo2 FR to the Neo3 FR mainly because my 4870 was covering some of the SATA ports.
Anyroads the Neo3 is 100% stable with just one slight problem.
My 2x2gb sticks of Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 will not run at their proper timings ie 4-4-4-12
all i seem to be getting is 5-5-5-18 reported by both CPU-Z & Everest
even tho i've set this in the bios manually.
Now i never had this problem with the P35 Neo2 FR set the memory to 4-4-4-12 in the bios i got 4-4-4-12
So does anybody know how to fix this or is it a bug that proberly be addressed in the next bios
im currently using the latest bios which is 1.6.

Ok problem solved to actually get this motherboard to work with correct memory timing ie in my case 4-4-4-12 then download the 1.71 beta bios
which can be found here.
http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/BIOS/Msi/MSI-P45-Neo3-Series-Bios-171-Beta.shtml
no stability problems as of yet with it, happy now as i can use my memory as it was intended.

MSI P45 Neo3 FR - E7400 - reoccuring restart issue

I just received new parts to rebuild my PC. It were:
MSI P45 NEO3 FR
Intel E7400
2x2GB A-Data (800) memory
and BQ Dark Power 450W PSU
Unfortunately I have an issue:
After building this (with addition of my old GPU Geforce 7950) I wanted to test it... I run this set into BIOS it worked till CPU temp. reaches around 40C then it gets into restarting loop. It happened each time I made a test. Of course I've tried also with my HD attached to the set with the same result. I've checked the RAM and PSU on my friends PC and it works fine so the next 'suspect' is mobo..
What might be wrong?
My best guess is BIOS - I have A7514 IMS V.1.3
It is old but how to upgrade it when there is such a big risk in restart during process...

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I did not installed new Window, at present I don't think it would be possible with hardware going into restart after few minutes at best... But when I attached my harddrive with Win XP on it it runned just more or less for the same amount of time (like in plain bios) before it gets restarted.
Nah you can't just plug in a hd that contain window and other drivers which is mean for another mobo and hope miracle work though some does but in the long run you're bound to run into issue. Not forgetting different mobo are having different chipset, unless you get back the same mobo.
If you doesn't believe me, give it a try and reinstall window from fresh with the mobo driver cd. If you don't have window or are facing licence key issue. Install linux as in ubuntu instead

MSI P45 Neo3-FR - Intel P45 still restarting. Again and again

Hi, i build new PC:
MSI P45 Neo3-FR - Intel P45 PCB 1.0
Core2 duo E7400
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C5 DHX - DDR2 800MHz 2GB
KME 400W ATX PZD-400 PFC High Quality
MSI N9800GT-MD512
HDD Barracuda 7200.12 ST3160318AS
After turn on is about 10s everything running and than restart and again and again restarting. I can not even get into the BIOS. The computer is simply not on.
Can someone help me?

Quote from: Jack t.N. on 04-August-09, 00:51:38
Test the mainboard outside the case on a non-conducting surface in barebone configuration (one stick of RAM, CPU, video card, power connectors, keyboard). Make sure all power connectors are properly connected: 24-Pin ATX, 4/8-Pin +12V CPU, 6-Pin +12V PCI-Express (video card))
If nothing changes, please try a better PSU.
outside the case with one stick of RAM is working. if i put second ram computer restarting again. It means that problem is in RAM?

MSI P45 neo3 FR do not start, black screen

Hello,
My MSI P45 neo3 FR motherboard don't start, i have just a black screen with cpu fan working.
System:
Motherboard : MSI p45 neo3-fr
CPU : tryed with :
-Intel Celeron Dual-Core 2,00Gz/512K/800
-Intel Pentium Dual-Core 2,00Gz/1M/800
Memory :tryed with :
-Kingston kur800d2nsk2 DDR2 800 2Gb
-HYS64T64000HU-3.7-A - 240-Pin Unbuffered DDR2 SDRAM Modules - Qimonda
-HYS64T128020EU-2.5-B2 - 240-Pin unbuffered DDR2 SDRAM Modules - Qimonda
Grafic Card :tryed with :
- MSI NX8600
- Asus ?
Power Supply Unit: NorthQ NQ-4001at Standard ATX 400Watt PSU
I tryed many cmos resets and FSB jumpers changing, but nothing work !
Can I try something more ? Thanks.

Please have a look at your PSU. A label on the side should give you the max amps for the 12V rail.
Try with another PSU with sufficient power. Check all your power connections once again.
Try with only one mem stick and in "barebone"config, i.e. mb outside the case on a non conductive surface, i.e. wooden table.

MSI P45 Neo3-FR ver2: FSB question

Helli, can you help me please with questions about this mobo. I'm not an expert, so sorry if I'm asking some dumb stuff.
So, I had to change my old motherboard during warranty service. It was Gigabyte GA-P45-DS3LR, so they replaced it by MSI P45 Neo3-FR ver2.
Other hardware:
CPU: Core 2 Dou E 8500
GPU: Gigabyte Radeon HD4850
RAM: Patriot something on 800 MHz
BIOS: 4.5.
So after 1 week of using this mobo I noticed, that some games and software loading longer than before on old mobo, which I used more than a year.
I installed Everest, CPU-Z, and MSI's Dual Core Center just to look at me system... and they show something strange in FSB.
As I know, my CPU should work at 333 (x6/9.5), and in BIOS it shows Current Clock 333x9.5. But all monitoring programs show 332.
Then I went to Dual Core Center -> Motherboard Clock to FSB adjusting. It shows 332 and next line 333, highlighted green (shows that this is default, i suppose). I switched FSB to 333, Dual Core Center start to show 333, but Everest and CPU-Z - 334 (here is screen shots: http://img132.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=332a.jpg ).
Then I switched FSB to - all monitors shows 334. Then I flashed BIOS to 4.4, booted with defaults, settings in BIOS was 333x9.5, but monitoring programs start to show 334. Then I flashed BIOS back to 4.5.
So, can anybody say - this is motherboard issue or something else? On old mobo all was fine, how it suppose to be, in Everest and CPU-Z.
And also, when I enable power saving I have maximum 2 LED lights even at 100% of CPU load - that means 50% of energy consumption?

First of all: Uninstall Dual Core Center or make at least sure that it does not automatically start when Windows starts (it has the power to modify the FSB Clock Speed and may be a factor here).
Then: Unplug your PSU from A/C power and >>Clear CMOSe<<. Then load "opitmized Defaults" in BIOS Setup and Disable Spread Spectrum before your save settings and exit.
That may already help.
In any case, smalll deviations from the set clock speed in BIOS or not unusual. They are not really a sign of any damage or defect and they also do not have any functional consequence whatsoever.

MSI P45 Neo3-FR and MSI HD4850 signal loss

My computer:
MSI P45 Neo3-FR
MSI HD4850
E8400 E0
2x2Gb DDR2 800MHz (MDT)
Samsung F1 320Gb
Toughpower Qfan 500W PSU
Vista 64-bit
The problem:
The motherboard came with BIOS version 1.0 which didn't support the E8400 E0. To fix that I had to update to version 1.3, which solved the processor issue but now the graphics card loses the signal at random while playing just about any game and after restarting the computer sometimes keeps on rebooting a couple of times. I read at the german tomshardware forum of someone with a similar problem that solved the problem by using BIOS version 1.2 but that isn't really an option for me since it doesn't support my processor. So any ideas?

Quote from: Frankenputer on 20-August-08, 21:52:14
Your PSU is only capable of 18A on 12V1 and 12V2, and only 16A on 12V3. But, that doesn't mean that the rails can deliver all those amps at the same time, it's just the max. Try to borrow a better PSU, preferably a powerful single +12V rail one, or get one as yours is not that great.
A good one to get would be the Corsair VX 550 or the TX 650 Corsair. Both are quiet and have powerful single +12V lines.
According to the ati webpage the Toughpower Qfan 500W is on the supported list for HD4850/70 though. One strange thing I just noticed is that 3dmark06 and furmark seem to run stable but gaming causes random signal losses. Of course it might also be a driver issue or something else(using catalyst 8.7 with Catalyst Control Center).
edit: Just noticed there is a new bios v1.4 available so I'll try that out and report back.
edit2: Ok, 1.4 was a disaster and wouldn't even let me reinstall Vista without bluescreens so now I'm trying out 1.2 and it seems to be working ok so far although it doesn't officially support my cpu.

MSI P45 Neo3 problem!

hello everyone...i've bought two weeks ago a Msi P45 Neo3 Motherboard...i have a intel dual core 2 duo 6420 @ 2.13 ghz...Ati radeon hd 3850 512/256...so far so good...the ram memory is a dual channel kit Kingston KVR1066D2N7K2/2G DDR2 and i think those are the problems!With one module it starts very well...it doesn't crashes , doesn't give BSOD,nothing...but when i put both modules in DUal Channel, windows just don;t want to boot...it gives errors,BSOD,i need to give ten restarts to boot and when i'm in explorer it crashes and restarts by himself!i tried to change the ram module and both works fine but singular not both same time!why i don't know...everyone told me to flash the bios with a recent update!if you tell me how to do and what version of bios to download i would be gratefull!My MB is Ver.1.0!please help me!
PS:Sorry for my english language!:D

Quote from: Svet on 14-February-11, 22:50:08
looks like there is a conflict with your system.. or the tool unable to detect it as msi board.
paste mainboard serial number
Elementul   Valoare
Atribute placa de baza
ID placa de baza   64-0100-009999-00101111-041509-Eaglelake$A7514200_A7514IMS V1.8 041509
Numele placii de baza   MSI P45 Neo3 v1.0 (MS-7514)
Atribute Front Side Bus
Tip bus   Intel AGTL+
Latime Bus   64 bit
Ceas real   267 MHz (QDR)
Ceas efectiv   1066 MHz
Largimea de banda   8532 MB/s
Caracteristici bus memorie
Tip bus   Dual DDR2 SDRAM
Latime Bus   128 bit
DRAM:rata FSB   16:8
Ceas real   533 MHz (DDR)
Ceas efectiv   1066 MHz
Largimea de banda   17064 MB/s
Caracteristici bus chipset
Tip bus   Intel Direct Media Interface
Informatii fizice placa de baza
Slot/socket procesor   1 LGA775
Sloturi extinse   4 PCI, 1 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16
Sloturi RAM   4 DDR2 DIMM
Dispozitive integrate   Audio, Gigabit LAN
Form Factor   ATX
Dimensiunea placii de baza   240 mm x 300 mm
Chipsetul placii de baza   P45
Caracteristici suplimentare   Dual CoreCell
Producator placa de baza
Nume firma   Micro-Star Int'l Co.,Ltd.
Informatii despre produs   http://www.msi.com/product/mb
Download BIOS   http://www.msi.com/service/download
Actualizare driver   http://www.aida64.com/driver-updates
Actualizari BIOS   http://www.aida64.com/bios-updates
AIDA Extrem edition showes to me those...i've tried to get bios from the site but did not managed:(...!

MSI P45 Neo3 DPC Latency issues

Hi guys. I'm on a MSI P45 Neo3 and so far everything's good. The only thing wrong is the high memory latencies I'm seeing in the DPC latency program + programs sometimes taking too long to load or start up etc.
My motherboard is MSI P45 Neo3 - MS-7514 V1.0
Is there any beta BIOS I can try to fix this problem for my motherboard?

My configuration:
Antec Midi Tower Sonata III Life Style ATX 500W
Arctic Processor cooler F7-PRO
Asus PCI-e Radeon HD3450 256MB Silent DVI/HDCP videocard
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz 1333 6MB Boxed (C0 I think)
LG DVD-/+/RAM GH20NS10 20x/20x/12x Bulk
Logitech MX518 Optical Mouse (connected via PS/2)
Microsoft Digital Media Pro Keyboard (connected via PS/2)
MSI P45 NEO3-FR iP45 (PCB 1.0)
NEC Floppydrive 1,44MB 3,5"
OCZ 2x2GB DDR2 SDRAM PC6400 CL5.0 Platinum (in dual channel mode)
Samsung 640GB SATA300 16MB, HD642JJ (in RAID "prepared" mode)
Sweex Card Reader CR005V2 All-in-1 Intern 3,5" USB2.0
All running their latest firmware/BIOS and drivers as far as I know.
The system uses default BIOS (v1.6) settings, no overclocking at all.
Where should I start my investigation?
Disable software, drivers, or hardware?
Any suggestions on which particular item?

Motherboard MSI P45 Neo3-FR (PCB 1.0) support OCZ RevoDrive X2 PCI-Express SSD

hello
I am in possession of a motherboard MSI P45 Neo3-FR (PCB 1.0)
is there anyone who can give me information or OCZ RevoDrive X2 PCI-Express SSD works here?

There's no gurantee even as mentioned by OCZ. I suggest that you check with OCZ.

MSI P45 Neo3 FR 1.0

Hi,
Just recently got OCZ 2 X 2 GB RAM "OCZ2T800C42G" sticks, when set on Auto they get set at 1067, but on trying to check the EPP Support Information in the BIOS it hangs, any ideas ?
My Rig
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MSI P45 Neo3 FR 1.0 1.9
Intel Q9550 E0
2 X 2 GB OCZ2T800C42G XTC
Corsair VX450
Thanks

I have Transcend 2 GB X 4 DDR2 667 modules which work without any problems, the problem with OCZ is only when trying to see the EPP Support Information, the Transcend have no such information on them
Your prompt response is appreciated, I would be heading over to the OCZ section
Thanks

MSI P45 Neo3-FR is underclocking my CPU when idle

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