MSI P55 GD-80 PCI express 8x problem

Just got one of these boards have updated to latest bios 1.c
When I use the middle pci express slot GPU-z reports my single card is in 8x mode when I change it to the top pci-e slot GPU-z reports it how it should be @ x16
Is the middle slot pci-e 8x only I thought it was meant to be 2x 16 slots and the bottom slot is 8x ?
Is this a bios issue ? anyone on same bios and their middle slot runs 16x ?
Thanks in advance to anyone that helps.

Quote from: C64 on 14-September-11, 06:08:48
I am using ONE graphics card in ONE pci-e slot ? did you even read my post ?
Yes i do, but seems you're not...
Only 1st PCI-E slot can run @16 and only when others are empy.
All others PCI-E slots will be @8 max with regard less how many cards are installed.

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