MSI P965 board and 4 gig memory....

Does the hardware on the P965 Platinum board support 4 gig memory? MSI says "up to 8GB memory size (with DDR2 800, memory only up to 4GB)" and it sounds good, but did anyone actually tried four gig or more with this board?
It's not related, but my T60p laptop shows only three gig when four gig is installed; I just don't want to buy memory for nothing twice in one month...
Thanks,
Cr00zng

Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 27-February-07, 09:08:00
I am not saying that I fully understand the whole adress space thing. I just tried to share what I have understood from reading about the whole 4gb matter so far.
Here is another example of what I tried to point to in trying to offer an explanation on the basis of the assumption that this is not really some sort of bug:
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt/RAM.html
Thanks for the link and most certainly I don't fully understand the "whole address space thing" either. I still say that my tech (I need to ask him tomorrow) did call Lenovo and they did say that the current hardware does not support more than 3.2 GBs of memory. Here's another link from UK that discusses this issue. Quote from the link:
"So if you chose your motherboard wisely/flukily, all 4GB will be available to you. However, if you're unlucky you'll find your memory map looks like this:
Address      Contents
0x00000000 - 0x3fffffff   Memory
0x40000000 - 0x7fffffff   More memory
0x80000000 - 0xbfffffff   Even more memory
0xc0000000 - 0xffffffff    Memory-mapped devices
0x100000000-0x3ffffffff   Where the *?#! did my last GB go?
Notice that only 3GB of the 4GB that you purchased made it into the memory map. So that last 1GB is unavailable to you. And don't think you can dust off that old copy of QEMM - this isn't memory which is hiding somewhere, and which you can coerce the OS into using, like in the good old days. Well...the old days. No, this memory is quite simply invisible to the CPU. If your motherboard is in this category, there is no physical way the CPU can get access to that memory. (In fact you'd probably find that the top 4 address bits of the processor aren't actually connected up to anything!)
What's particularly galling is that certain motherboards are advertised as accepting up to 4GB of memory, and yet won't let you use the last 1GB! ("Oh, you were expecting to use all 4GB. Sorry, we only guarantee that the motherboard will work when you put 4GB in.")"
I still blame the OEMs for this and not the software....
Cr00zng

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Quote from: NovJoe on 03-July-09, 21:57:34
Clear CMOS and try booting the system again.
Was the system like this from Day 1 or this only happens after something has been done?
Thks NovJoe ....
The system had run without any problem for more than 2 years.
I presume I have a connection problem on the MOBO or other hardware. If I place the PC case in the cabinet under my desk, the problem occurs. If I have the PC on the floor there is not any problem. It also happens only when the PC is cold.
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