MSI U8668 and MSI GeForce4 MX440

I have a Systemax Venture computer. It is brand new, 2.4GHZ, 512 Meg DDR.
The motherboard is a MSI Biostar U8668 Motherboard.
It has a built in 32MEg 3D SavageDDR video controller.
I purchased a brand new MSI Mx440 8X (128MEG DDR, 8x AGP) video card.
I am using FreshDiagnose to check my computer performace. Before the new card, I get about 633 Video Performance. After the MSi GeFroce card, I get 533. I have tried new drivers and such, to only worsen the results. I have tried the card in another machine, and it performs worse than a Diamond Stealth 64 card. This card has 128MEG DDR ram onboard.
I am completely stuck. I paid good money for this card, and want it to outperform any other card I have!!
Does anyone else have any ideas, or has anyone had this problem> What should be the driver revison # for the Video card, the Motherboard?
Also, whatd the best Video performance benchmark to test with and get the best results??
This is my last effort to try befor obtaining an RMA, but would like to solve the problem ASAP!
Thanks!
Neil Hicks

Biostar ( http://www.biostar.com.tw ) is not related to MSI.
This board uses a VIA P4X266 chipset, did you install the VIA 4in1 drivers?
How many points do you get in 3DMark 2001 (not 2003) ?
I downloaded FreshDiagnose and it's benchmarks are all 2D acceleration (simple draw operation, text, moving bitmaps, drawing circles and lines...)
These are all legacy features and not executed in the 3D core of the VGA card.
If you want to run Doom(1) at 300FPS you would care about this, but it has nothing to do with D3D or openGL preformance.

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What kind of TV-Out is on the 64MB MSI Geforce4-Ti4200? And what kind is on the 128MB Version? (The same?)
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The hub is not compatible. It sounds like the unit is powering the link to the TC.. which would cause the TC to freeze up. You might need a special USB cable which has just data connection but no power.
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Hey there,
I've got exactly the same setup.
Using the MSI geforce 4 4600 and a Winfast XP/2000 TV Tuner
Huge Problems...like I can't get the Winfast card to work.
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Well after installing the Winfast APP (newest version), I get no TV?!?!
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Does your setup work?!?!?!

MSI GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB refresh problem

Hi all!
I have following WinXP refresh problem:
When I set refresh rate to value bigger than 75Hz, system tells me that refresh rate was changed, but my monitor still shows me 75 Hz.
My HW configuration:
Athlon XP 2000+
ABIT KD7 (VIA KT400 chipset)
MSI GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB
IBM DeskStar 45GB 7200 rpm
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MSI GeForce4 TI4200 8X 128MB - PC Internal Speaker

My HW :
ASUS P4S8X (+512 DDRAM)
INTEL P4 2400+
MSI GeForce4 TI4200 8X 128MB
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No problem with MS office applications .
No problem with DVD .
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Originally posted by wonkanoby
lowvoltage warning software,something along those lines?
ASUS Probe 2 says :
CPU temperature = 38C/100F (status OK)
MB temperature = 34C/93F (status OK)
CPU Fan = 2322 (status OK)
+12V = 12,032 (status OK)
+5V = 5,08 (status OK)
+3.3V = 3,056 (status OK)
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Avid
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[email protected]

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When I just touch the video card a little with the power off (without removing at all), it gets back normal when I restart...
The pins on the monitor cable maybe bent. Can you try another monitor.
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Bluesky. I'm not familier with grounded AC plug. Does this have three wires, or is it a separate wire???

Very Low 3dMark2001 score w/ MSI GeForce4 MX440SE-T

HELP!!
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AMD Athlon xp 2000+
ASUS A7V333
256 DDR 333MHz Kingston RAM(Latency 2.5)
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This seems to be the most appropriate forum to
post this in - but if i'm wrong, please point me to the right place.
I recently got a MSI GeForce4 MX 440 board,
and installed it in a new system i built.
However, i'm having problems getting it working.
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http://forums.projectai.com/htdocs/dcforum/User_files/3e4d3fc808201232.jpg
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Regards.

You mean it just has a heatsink without a fan ?
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SiSoftware Sandra
Computer System
Name : COMPUTER
User Name : default
Logon Domain : COMPUTER
Processor(s)
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
Speed : 1.20GHz
Model Number : 1334 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR1759 (estimated)
L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC synchronous write-back
Mainboard and BIOS
Bus(es) : AGP PCI USB
MP Support : No
System BIOS : Compaq 786K1
Mainboard : Compaq 06E4h
System Chipset : VIA Technologies Inc VT8363/5 KT133/KM133 System Controller
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 100MHz (200MHz data rate)
Installed Memory : 448MB SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 1x 100MHz (100MHz data rate)
Video System
Monitor/Panel : Philips 107S (107S2)
Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X
Physical Storage Devices
Removable Drive : Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive : QUANTUM FIREBALLlct15 30
CD-ROM/DVD : CREATIVE CD5233E-N
CD-ROM/DVD : PHILIPS CDRW2412A
Logical Storage Devices
1.44MB 3.5" (A:) : N/A
Hard Disk (C:) : 25.2GB (8.9GB, 35% Free) (NTFS)
Hard Disk (D:) : 2.7GB (584MB, 21% Free) (NTFS)
CD-ROM/DVD (E:) : N/A
CD-ROM/DVD (F:) : N/A
Peripherals
Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 1 COM / 1 LPT
USB Controller/Hub : NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : NEC PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller (B1)
USB Controller/Hub : VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Printing Support
USB Controller/Hub : Generic USB Hub
USB Controller/Hub : Logitech USB Camera (Pro 3000)
USB Controller/Hub : USB Composite Device
Keyboard : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Keyboard : HID Keyboard Device
Mouse : PS/2 Compatible Mouse
Human Interface : HID-compliant consumer control device
Human Interface : HID-compliant device
Human Interface : HID-compliant consumer control device
Human Interface : HID-compliant device
Human Interface : HID-compliant device
Human Interface : HID-compliant device
Human Interface : HID-compliant device
Human Interface : HID-compliant device
Human Interface : USB Human Interface Device
Human Interface : USB Human Interface Device
MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio
Printers and Faxes
Model : Lexmark Z22-Z32 Series
Model : Lexmark Z22-Z32 Color Jetprinter
Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP Home Ver 5.01.2600 Service Pack 1
Network Adapter(s)
Networking Installed : Yes
Adapter : SMC EZ Card 10/100 PCI (SMC1211 Series)

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