MSI X58 Eclipse Plus Core i7 cannot underclock overclock

Hi, wonder if anyone has the same problem I do, I'm running a Core i7 920 @ 4110 Mhz, everything is running well except for 1 thing, I cannot clock my system back to 3.9Ghz or 3.8 or 3.7 or just even 4.0, I can however clock back to factory defaults, any ideas? I've tried everything from voltages to speedstep to Dram configs and so on.
Any input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

HI HU16E, thanks for the input, yes I'm OC'ing manually, I don't like the OC dail function so much, in the mean time I've tried a few things and this is what I came up with, spread spectrum is disabled.
Core voltage is 1.208, Dram @ 1.64, EIST is enabled for now and so is Intel turbo boost tech.
I reverted back to defualt/factory settings and started moving my base clock up 100Mhz at a time, after each setting I run Everest stress test for 20 min. and then move on to the next, I started at 3000Mhz and moved my way up.
I got everything running stable up until 3600Mhz, now I've tried booting @ 3700Mhz and no luck, if I push my clock to 4100Mhz with a 20x multiplier it boots fine no problem, but now I've got a new problem, if I stress my FPU @ 4100Mhz it crashes. All i wanted to do is to lower my base clock to have less stress on the CPU, @ 4100Mhz my core temp. is @ 69 degrees.
I can however push my CPU clock to 4300Mhz no problem, but I don't need it that high, if I can just run @ 3900Mhz it would be perfect. My reason for trying to get my clock speed down is that the board and CPU as you know is expensive and I just want to save it a little by running @ a lower clock speed.
Any idea what the max core voltage is for the core i7 920?
Thanks for the input, I will double check my settings now again.

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If you turn EIST off you should be able to put the multiplier to a specific number between 12 and 21 (or higher if you have an unlocked Extreme CPU) and that is where it will stay.
I believe that is exactly what i did, i disabled EIST, C1E and set multiplier to 21, however, when i run a stability test(Prime95 or Linx) it always drops the multiplier down from 21x to 20x.
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I experimented a bit with Overspeed Protection enabled and disabled, however i did not notice any difference in this regard, the multiplier still drops to 20 on high load for me.
However this problem do not happen if i set multiplier to 20, it is only the 21 multiplier that have this issue.
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Max voltage for ram is 1.65V , change the settings manually if needed in the bios.
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