Msi Z68 and Patriot ?

I was wondering is it possible to lover voltage and timings of http://patriotmemory.com/products/detailp.jsp?prodline=5&catid=34&prodgroupid=194&id=1004&type=1 ,on Msi Z68A-GD65 G3 or Z68A-GD80 G3 with i5 2500k (exactly 1.5v, 1600mhz),and will utilize a 2 of these kits,please help?
Thanks in advance.

Quote from: HU16E on 24-October-11, 14:05:07
Turns out both of us were incorrect. We were one above & one below on the chips. Not 1066, not 1600, but good old reliable 1333's. Yes people, you read right. Tested Triple Channel RAM (two sticks) in a Dual Channel Z68. Works great!
If they are able to run with CAS = 11, they are DDR3-1600.
DDR3-1333 canNOT run with CAS = 11.
You need to remove the heatspreader and to study the chips.
It's a matter of revision:
2.X = Elpida
3.X = Micron
4.X = Samsung
5.X = Hynix
8.X = Nanya
They are the best DDR3 chips manufacturers.
In any case, CMT12GX3M3A2000C9 are using (overvolted) DDR3-1600 chips.
Quote from: HU16E on 24-October-11, 14:05:07
In summary for those looking for RAM for the Sandy Bridge platform, if any of the RAM you purchase has SPD profile programming to default to the platforms supported CPU IMC of JEDEC standard DDR3 1333 with common timings of 9 9 9 24 @ 1.50v's + or - 0.075v's, it should POST just fine.
I totally agree.

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Hey there.
have a problem with my new ripjaw x series ram 1866. ( and all other ram)
Tried installing all 16 gb of it earlier today and apparently only the first blue and black ram slot work.
Before i updated my bios to the newest one the pc wouldn't even load it would automaticly restart, but after getting the newest version of bios the computer keeps running but no signal to the screen.
I tried mem test on all 4 sticks by using them on the first two slots 1 black and 1 blue and there are no errors.
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Quote from: Jack on 26-January-12, 00:26:49
Did you test @DDR3-1333 // 1.55V // CR=2T?
Also, please read the >>Posting Guide<< and provide full system specs (especially precise model names/numbers of the memory modules you are talking about here).
How and where do i change those settings? Am a total newbie so you'll have to be patient with me..
In the overclock setting of the bios tried changing the volt to and freq to what you said but after changing that even the working 2 didn't work.. so i had to reset bios.

Z68 and memtest 86 mystery

So where do we start this time ?
After having set up my new Z68A-GD65 (G3) board, which went without a hitch I must add, I went through a couple of beta BIOS versions to test and see what the restricted multi was all about.
The .N34 beta BIOS eventually had no more multi restriction, but was by no means perfect. Even with the minor issues that still exist, my board is solid and performs up to expectations, maybe even better than what I expected after now having run some comprehensive tests. But more about that later.
First the hardware:
MSI Z68-GD65 (G3)
i5-2500K
Arctic Cooling Freezer 13
Crucial 2X2GB CT2KIT25664BA1339 first mem kit tested
Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9W 1,35V Vengeance kit currently on the MB
Nvidia 8600GT (currently for testing only)
Seagate 500GB SATA II
Sony Optiarc DVD RW
Corsair CX500 PSU
all mounted on a CM Lab test bench
OS Win 7-64bit
BIOS used for testing V23.3B4 (.N34)
Other hardware used: Fluke model 77 digital multimeter.
One thing that does need mentioning is that the .N34 BIOS applies the correct memory voltage for the Low voltage Vengeance when XMP is enabled. The previous BIOS did not do that and one has to manually adjust it.
Within the BIOS itself, the reported "Current DRAM voltage" in Auto and Manual does not reflect what is applied in "DRAM Voltage" and even that differs from the real voltage. I used a Fluke Digital Multimeter to eventually find the correct voltages and for anyone that wants to apply the correct voltages, here are two tables as tested.
Having used the multimeter to verify the VCore, I found that CPUZ reflects the most accurate reading out of all the applets used. A 1,36 Core voltage in CPUZ was reflected as 1,363V on the multi.
Now let's get to the real reasons for the tests.
In the recent past we had a user on a MSI sister forum that ran memtest 86 and found what he described as reduced base clocks whenever the CPU multiplier was increased by the "Adjust CPU Ratio" function in the BIOS. This led him to believe that although the board is running at an increased core frequency, that the performance would decrease as the BCLK and mem speed in memtest showed this clearly. No real benchmark tests had been done in the OS to either confirm or deny this suspicion, except a remark that it feels considerably slower than the same CPU on another manufacturer's P67.
At this point I must point out that it is not my intention nor the forum's intention to compare manufacturers motherboards for benchmarking. I shall include sample tests performed on that board which should clearly show any performance degradation, if the memtest data is anything to go by.
Having read the post I decided it would be a nice challenge to see if this memtest phenomena actually translates to a real performance reduction once the OS is loaded and benchmarks are performed. I am fortunate that I also happen to have the exact board that the user was referring to and mine has an i7-2600K on it.
First things first. Let's have a look at what the reported memtest issue is all about
This first screenshot shows the values that were monitored to be inconsistent with what is set in the BIOS. My first screenshot was taken with the BCLK at 100 (99.8) and the DDR3-1600 modules.
The second screenshot was taken with my 1333 memory installed and my mutiplier set at X45 and still a BCLK of 100 (99.8). You can clearly see that the BCLK is at 73, the memory is at DDR3-975. I tested various multis from 33 through to 45 and as the multi increased, these reflected values decreased. Below are the results of my tests with the 1333 memory:
@ X33 everything is still normal
@X34 BCLK=96 mem DDR3-1291
@X38 BCLK=86 mem DDR3-1155
@X40 BCLK=82 mem DDR3-1097
@X43 BCLK=76 mem DDR3-1021
@X44 BCLK=74 mem DDR3- 997
@X45 BCLK=73 mem DDR3- 975
I checked this with the DDR3-1600 modules and the behaviour is the same. I only ran the DDR3-1600 up to X42 as it was enough to prove the similar results.
@X33 BCLK=99 mem DDR3-1596
@X36 BCLK=91 mem DDR3-1463
@X39 BCLK=84 mem DDR3-1351
@X42 BCLK=78 mem DDR3-1254
It must be remembered that at all times the memory was set at 1333 and 1600 respectively in the BIOS.
Thus the user's valid assumption that something is amiss with the Z68 board.
Since these values in memtest do tend to lead one to believe an associated performance penalty, it was time to put it to the test in the real world and run some applications that could measure overall memory performance and also the total system performance.
My choice was to use Maxxmem which produces comprehensive theoretical benchmark numbers and the 7ZIP which has a benchmark tool included, also providing a comprehensive system bench in terms of file compression and decompression.
The software used:
Win7-64bit OS
CPU-Z v1.58
Maxxmem v1.95
7Zip v9.2
Both the systems used are running with 2X4GB DDR3-1600 Vengeance 9.9.9.24 timings.
My Z68 has the i5-2500K and the P8P67-Pro has the i7-2600K.
Now before anyone cries foul that the i7-2600K has 8 threads and the 2500K only 4. My choice of 7Zip was done because it's benchmark has the ability to restrict the amount of threads for testing. So within the 7ZIP benchmark I used only 1 thread throughout all the tests to ensure a fair comparison.
I quote the following from the Help file.
The benchmark shows a rating in MIPS (million instructions per second). The rating value is calculated from the measured speed, and it is normalized with results of Intel Core 2 CPU with multi-threading option switched off. So if you have modern CPU from Intel or AMD, rating values in single-thread mode must be close to real CPU frequency.
The focus is on the Z68 tests and only X45 was used to do a performance comparison between the Z68 and P67 platform.
First the Maxxmem results:
This already indicates that the perceived performance penalty deduced from memtest 86 has no influence on real world performance. As the multi is increased the memory performance increases proportionally.
Now let's have a look at the 7ZIP benchmark tests. These tests were all done with one core, unless otherwise specified and all used a default dictionary size of 32mb.
This one came as a bit of a surprise. You can see that the Z68 actually outperforms the P67 with it's 2600K when both are running 4 threads.
Once all 8 threads are used, then everything is as per expectation.
A sample overview of the values as reflected within the benchmark applications.
And below a snapshot of my Z68 on the bench test. I know it looks like a mess, but when you are doing testing, nothing beats an open bench.
In closing, I believe that memtest 86 needs some work to be compatible with the Z68 chipset as it is clear from the tests that there is no real world performance loss.
Furthermore I invite other users of Z68 boards to do their own tests on MSI boards and post them for comparative purposes, especially those users that still have a BIOS causing them to have the mysterious throttling.

SonDa5 this thread is about memtest86 and the fact that it incorrectly reports BCLK and mem speeds on Sandy Bridge boards as you have observed yourself. Nothing to do with the BIOS.
The test that we conducted were done to show that whatever was reported in memtest86 was not a true reflection of the real BCLK and mem speeds once the system was running in the OS. It further concluded that it did not have any performance impact.
My own voltage observations on my board were added within this thread for the sake of completeness of the testing.
If you have particular bugs with your board, then kindly start a thread in the appropriate section of the forum about your problems and your test results.
You started by assuming a problem of some sort with your board, based on memtest86 observations. This was sufficiently answered within this thread.
You are now using someone else's test results to come to some kind of conclusion on whatever perceived problems you have. Do your own tests if you want to prove a point and then take those as a starting point to substantiate your generalised statements.

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If i have to RMA this Board can I drop it off at MSI Viking Road Richmond I Live Near there.

Have you tried it without OC Genie ? What are the results ? Which BIOS are you using ?
Only insert one memory module. Do a CMOS clear >>Clear CMOS Guide<< Remove the battery for a while.
Ensure that EuP2013, Spread Spectrum and XMP are disabled.
Retest with only one memory module.

MSI z68 gd65 G3 POST TAKES FOREVER

Hello Guys I'm new to this forum
A week ago I purchased new system parts one of them was an MSI z68 mobo.
I was really excited about that build and when I finally put all components together
I thought that something was wrong ... mainly the time in between power button and post took so long about 15- 25 sec depends...
Before you give me any advice here is what I did and the problem still persist.
Unplug all USB devices
removed my msi 570 gtx TF II OC and connected monitor to iGPU
clear comos without power cord installed
try to turn it on without any hard drives and optical drives
Here is the wired thing as well every time i want to get to bios if i hit delete buton to early the post freezes at B2 ...
What does it sound like guys ?? Should I RMA or any other advice??
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MSI|Z68A-GD65 (G3) Z68 LGA1155 Memory
4GB x2|CORSAIR CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B
Graphics Card MSI 570 GTX TF II OC
SSD Vertex 3 120 GB SATA III Power Supply
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HP 24" NIKITA
Microsoft Wireless Laser Desktop 7000 m&k
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I press the start btn and even before to monitopr turned on it rebooted itself and that green power option is disabled is it time for msi RMA ticket ??
This behavior continuing even with EuP 2013 disabled, has been linked to UEFI/BIOS settings usually associated with OC'ing & certain frequency combinations. Try a bclk setting of 10010
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The problem with occasional reboot before even get to post came back, fallowed by a blinking underscore in the right top corner of the screen that showed up right before the windows logo, it was blinking there for couple of minutes until I lost my patience and hard shutdown it, Guys I have no idea what I'm dealing with here
Most of the time, during my testing escapades, this was due to a voltage problem to the CPU 'or' the settings of the RAM. Double check the connections on the modular PSU. Corsair is an excellent brand of PSU, but even they can have a lemon once in awhile. I wouldn't completely rule out that the PSU wasn't acting up.

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(running bios version 4.3 atm)
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I just bought Noctua NH-D14 and plugged it's fans into the sysfan 1, as well as other fans in sysfan 2.
I am trying to change the fan control profile, however there are few problems:
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Which is rather dangerous tbh.
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yes the sysfan 1 has a 4pin connector, but in the manual it says that the pwm pin is not to be used.
The cpu fan is 4 pin pwm.
And the sysfan 2 is 3pin .
So the cpu fan connector is pwm, while the others are voltage controlled.
I am currently using Sysfan 1 for Noctua's fans and Sysfan 2 for the other fans.
I checked and I can control sysfan's speeds from control panel.
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Does the MSI Z68-G43 G3 support 8/8 PCIe 2.0 lanes (for SLI/CF)

Hello,
The MSI webpage states
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• 1 PCI Express gen3 x16 slot, 1 PCI Express gen2 x16 slot
• 2 PCI Express gen2 x1 slots
• 3 PCI slots, support 3.3V/ 5V PCI bus Interface
for the MSI Z68-G43 G3. It doesn't say whether the board can run the 16 PCIE 2.0 Lanes in 8/8 configuration. My current (Gigabyte P67A-D3-B3) board can only do 16/4, so I am considerung moving to this board for Crossfire. Does anyone know if 8/8 2.0 is possible with this board and a Sandy Bridge CPU?
Regards
chris

Quote from: RemusM on 27-September-14, 04:52:45
SLI is not possible on this board.
The PCI-E 2.0 slot is equipped with only 4 lanes.
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z68AG43_G3.html#hero-specification
PCI-E Gen : Gen3 (1x16), Gen2 (1x4)
Thanks for the help, Remus!
I am now looking to get a Z77A-GD55 instead. It is specified as PCI-E Gen : Gen3 (16, 16), Gen2(4) so it should be fine (Sandy Bridge only reduces it to Gen2 (16, 16) instead of Gen3 (16, 16), right?).
They are somewhat hard to find, though, unlike the Z68A-GD65-G3 with Gen3 (16/0, 8/8) and Z68A-GD80-G3 with Gen3 (16/0, 8/8), Gen2 (1x4) . So I'll see what I can get.

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Hello all,this is my first post here.
I just purchased an Msi Z68 GD80(G3) and I think I have strange cpu temp. reading as seen in the Hw monitor.My i5 2500k idle/load CPU temp. is equal or higher than core temps which is strange for an intel cpu,as an intel user for years I believe it should be 10-12C lower than core temps.(my previous mobo was giga p67 ud5 and never had this issue).Double checked my cpu cooler-spire thermax 2-no problems.Updated to last bios-no change-Any recommendations/solutions welcomed here.
Rest of my system as follows:
Asus gtx560
4*2 gb gskill ddr3 ram
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Have you checked what the CPU temp shows in BIOS just after start up ? How does that compare with the HW temp.
HW Monitor's temp interpretation may just not be calibrated for the specific Fintek chip used on your MB. Maybe you want to check with the HW monitor home site as well.
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If they are all similar, then it could just be a badly calibrated sensor on the board as well.
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My motherboard is dead ase to upgrade to the latest beta bios. MSI Z68 GD65 G3

Good night.
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Update motherboard bios because with 23.7 mi new graphics card had no video signal.
Today I was recommended to update to a new beta bios, the latest for msi z68 GD65 G3 that could be better.
The process is completed perfectly with the forum tool.
Now comes on but restarts constantly. The second bios will not start either. No lights light and remove the memory but makes no noise.
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have you done >>Clear CMOS Guide<< with power cord removed?
have you tried to boot with 1 memory stick only?
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Today I was recommended to update to a new beta bios, the latest for msi z68 GD65 G3 that could be better.
which one version exactly?

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I lost an .msi file and cannot do updates to my Itunes system, Apple has not been abe to help, where do i find the .msi file or how do i repair the system? All prior updates to the system have worked, but the latest 10.5.2 will not update due to this lost file.

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2. You should remove all instances of iTunes and the rest of the components listed below:
it may be necessary to remove all traces of iTunes, QuickTime, and related software components from your computer before reinstalling iTunes.
Use the Control Panel to uninstall iTunes and related software components in the following order:
iTunes
QuickTime
Apple Software Update
Apple Mobile Device Support
Bonjour
Apple Application Support (iTunes 9 or later)
Follow the instructions from Apple article listed here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1923 to remove all components
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missing file to download itunes 10.6 - .msi. file and installation package

Try to follow this guide to uninstall iTunes and all of its components: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1925, then reinstall the latest version of iTunes. You must follow this guide for this to be successful (uninstalling all components in the order specified). This will not touch your iTunes library or data.

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hi i am having some small problems with my
mx440-td8x.. when i open the properties for the card i cant open the options msi information and the msi clock. it says: error when the file f:´WINNITsystem32desk.cpl for the controlpanel was opening. what shal i do to fix it?

Guys,
You could go get the latest nVidia Detonator4 Drivers from the nVidia Website. Then you can delete the file msicpl.dll from your Windows directory.
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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
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