MSI Z87-G65 Gaming BIOS causing RAM problem?

Hey
I updated my bios something like week ago from 1.7 to 1.8 and seems like it is causing ram to behave oddly. I installed the BIOS via live update 5 and flashed the computer via USB. Seems like the ram usage climbs to 100% at span of few hours, usually something like 2-4h. Also my SSD usage also is very high at the same time, around 50-100% changing rapidly. Haven't had the problem at earlier bios versions. Also task manager won't show any specific process that is using all that RAM/disc. Kinda annoying that can't use computer longer that that because it gets so laggy :(. I'll include some screenshots from task manager.
Thank you!
System specs:
MSI z87-G65 Gaming
Corsair Vengeance pro (2x8GB) 1866MHz C9
Intel i7-4470K
MSI Geforce GTX760 Gaming
PSU Corsair AX760

Quote from: Sea Dog on 31-December-13, 04:01:00
After the flash, was a PSU power cord removed, battery removed CMOS clear performed? Also, was the ME driver re-installed with the latest available? If none of that helps, then I would suggest to contact MSI Technical about the problems encountered with the new UEFI/BIOS revision. A reflash can be accomplished as well back to a version that was working. There is no real need to keep updating a UEFI/BIOS if all works without any problems with the exception of a specific improvement of a particular function that may have been less than optimal.
No I didn't, I'll try it that way and check out if it works. Tough ME driver is a latest but I didn't re-install it.
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