Msi Z87-GD65 Booting Failure With eSATA Drives

Hi Folks,
Before I go down the (probably ill-fated) Customer Service path I thought I'd address the forum here on a little problem I'm having with my Z87-GD65.
IN essence, if I have a hard drive connected to my eSATA port the PC won't boot. I'm using an ICYDOCK 4 bay external enclosure (MB561US-4SB if interested). If the drive itself is on but the HD trays are ejected then it boots. If any of the drives are secured then it'll hang at a post-BIOS/pre-Windows screen where all I get is a blinking cursor for about 30 seconds and then it disappears to a plain black screen. If the device is powered off then it boots.
I've checked the BIOS with one of the HDs running and it doesn't appear within my boot list - in fact, except for one selection in the bios allowing me to disable eSATA there really isn't much I can do there.
I've upgraded my BIOS to 1.30 from 1.00 and the process seems to move a bit further - now I get the oh-so-pretty ugly Windows logo and that's all.
When I do actually boot the PC with the ICYDOCK off then I'm able to get into Windows normally, and turn on the ICYDOCK. After a few seconds all 4 hard drives report in and everything's fine.
I've been using this ICYDOCK for about a year and a half, with 2 other motherboards (neither were an MSI) and i7 cores, and neither of them caused me any issues. I remember that neither of those boards had the port multiplier eSATA capability so I had to buy a controller card with that capability. I could probably dig that up and see if the problem remains.
In case you're wondering, if it helps, I built a Msi Z87-GD65/4770 i7 - based PC with 2 internal 2TB Hard Drives, and 16gb RAM. I already mentioned the ICYDOCK. I used LiveUpdate to install all the latest drivers & BIOS before uninstalling it.
I build & repair PCs for a living so I'm pretty familiar with what's going on with the system. I figure that there must be something happening between the BIOS and Windows "handoff" of the ICYDOCK, but I'm damned if I can figure out just what.

More information please. PSU, OS being used, etc..
Live Update is best uninstalled. Flash UEFI/BIOS the safer way;
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=169827.0
Recommend to download drivers and utilities from the MSI Websites and install manually.
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