MSI z87 X-POWER 100% GPU load at idle

guys,
i have just bought the z87 x-power. System specs are:
-i7 4770k
-2 x Asus 6950 1 gb in crossfire
-16 GB GEIL ram
-Samsung 840 series ssd
I have flashed the latest 1.3 bios.
My problem is that even when my system is idling, the GPU in PCIE slot 1 (the uppermost slot) runs at 100% load. If i enable crossfire, both cards run at 100%. It draws A LOT of power. The temporary fix i have found for this is to disable crossfire in CCC and enable it again. Once i do this, both cards work fine and the power consumption and gpu temps return to normal levels. But i have to do this every time i start my PC.
I have tried the following to no avail:
-swapping the cards around (the second card is in slot 5 as per the boards instructions for running two cards).
-removing the crossfire bridge
-swapping the power connectors
-uninstalling and re-installing the drivers (i'm using the latest 13.11 beta drivers).
-using driver sweeper to completely remove all GPU driver data.
-restoring optimized default settings in bios
-swearing.
-praying to allah, baby jesus, mick jagger.
The problem persists even with no drivers installed (using gpu-z to check the load and temps). This leads me to think its not the AMD drivers causing the issue.
has anyone else encountered this issue? it's doing my head in!

Quote from: MojoW on 06-November-13, 19:17:30
I googled your problem and alot of people seem to be having the same problems because of a bitcoinmining malware.
Check Processes when your gpu's are @ 100% to see if u can find : iehighutil.exe
Just a thought.
thanks Mojo. have had a pretty thorough look and i dont have that process. Do you know if that malware uses any other names? I noticed that atiedxx.exe was using a fiar amount of system resources and it disappeared when i disabled and re-enabled crossfire. a search on atiedxx.exe doesnt return much in terms of malware.

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Quote from: roelst on 11-September-13, 01:52:02
First of all it seems that I can't control my CPU fans (2 Corsair SP120's, 3pin). Moving the sliders around doesn't change anything and they keep running at full speed. Is there any way I can check the voltages that the fans currently run on?
Im not sure if this is the case with your setup, but on most motherboard the CPU_FAN headers are PWM controlled, not 3pin, this means that even though you are changing and the motherboard is trying by sending the pwm signal your fans are not recieving it as they are 3pin, in some motherboards the manufacturers does offer the ability to change the CPU_FAN header from PWM to voltage control (asus if im not mistaken does with Q-Fan from auto to manual), and this would be the only way to control you Corsair 3pin fans from bios on the CPU_FAN header.
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Thank you both for the prompt replies. I'm learning a lot.
Turns out I also found this from G.SKILL in going over reviews of the memory modules I have. Another user had a similar configuration as mine and was having similar problems. G.SKILL replied:
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We are sorry to hear you were unable to get two kits working in the same system. It is not guaranteed two kits can operate at the rated specifications since they were not pre-matched, tested, and guaranteed at factory. With multi-channel motherboards, perfectly matching memory is necessary to achieve high frequency. This is why we must offer high capacity 32GB, 64GB kits, otherwise we can just sell one module at a time and have you purchase as many as you need. Unfortunately, memory does not work that way. If you purchase a 16GB kit rated at DDR3-2133, you should have absolutely no issues. For any further questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us directly for assistance.
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Also in the end, I really just want a stable machine. This is a basically an office/engineering machine. My initial thinking was that if the system was unstable at 2133 then there is something wrong with it that needs to be fixed. It sounds instead like getting to 2133 is not guaranteed, and is much more of an art than simply throwing the modules in and powering up the system.
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I'll put together a post for the G.SKILL forums, and if I get anything useful I'll post what I learn here for completeness.
Thanks again for the fast and informative replies. It's much appreciated.
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