MSO over MSO

Hello:
Using the new functionality on R18 about placing a different interactivity (video, audio, etc) in any stage of the MSO, is it possible to include another MSO in an specific object of a parent MSO?
For example, I have a catalog of clothing made with a MSO, and I swipe to move from shirts, sweaters, trousers, etc, but when I choose the trousers, I will show me a window with a trouser on blue and 3 tabs, each tab I tap, should change the color of the trouser. So, If I swipe to the next item, I could move to the next clothe.
Any ideas???

I have a full page MSO (the states are images covering the whole page) which has a Scrollable Frame over it, acting as a menu. I need to place an icon at the bottom at the page which might keep "visible" over the whole thing, so I just set this icon to a 2 state object and added a fake button in order to have it visible. I had done this before in other articles, over other interactivity, and it worked fine. But now, over the full MSO, the Folio doesn't accept adding my article. As in the past days my Folio started having weird behaviours, not accepting an article which was working fine before, I just need to confirm this, before I start doing the article from zero again... "is it possible MSO over MSO??"
Thank you again...

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Help with MSO over buttons...

I have something with MSO that I can't find a solution...
I have a page with a set of frames (thumbnails) set as "buttons", which work as a "menu" to open a MSOs with a big view of that images (in the menu). When I touch one of these buttons(thumbs), it goes to its respective state (bigger image). When the state/image is 'opened', there is a "close" button and also a "buy" button, and both of them works perfectly. The problem is, if I tap anywhere else but the "close" or "buy" button, it changes to another "state", because of the other "buttons" which are under the current state... Did I miss something to avoid this???
There is a similar example in a free preview of Wired Magazine on App Store (it's the orange cover which says "iPad edition free preview") - the fourth page (Inside a nuclear cooling tower). They have a close button at the top, but if you tap in the areas where the buttons are, it changes to other states without closing it... Weird.
Does anybody knows how to avoid it?

Put the buttons into the MSO.
Bob

Nested MSO, slideshow inside MSO triggered by button, invisible on start, able to open/close

Consider the following scenario:
(albeit, this may not even be the right way to do this, or perhaps such functionality is not possible based on existing tools at this time, however, I thought I would post and see if anyone has a trick to share...)
I have a slideshow on the page, it is set to auto play.
I would like to hide it initially, and have it trigger with a button... and then let the user close it. Much like the "light box" effects we have all come to know from the web.
Seems easy enough.
However, in my first attempt to do this I did the following:
1- create an OPEN button (F1)
2- create a container box and a CLOSE button, grpup them (F2)
3- turn them both into an MSO (M1)
4- set the button in F1 to trigger F2 (open state)
5- set the button in F2 to trigger F1 (close state)
-> test, works.
next step, slideshow!
I grab 5 images, create a new MSO (M2).
Turn it into a slideshow Folio Overlay...
-> test, works.
Now this is where it gets funky...
MY FAIL 1- If I try to take M2 and then right click M1, there is NO paste into option.
MY FAIL 2- If I click on the Object States Panel, and then Right click State 2 for M1, there is no "past into option"
MY FAIL 3- If I try to "Alt+Ctrl+V" with M2 into State 2 for M1 it does not work.
--> nor does any other scenario where I attempt to paste any MSO into another MSO
I have even tried
x- grouping the MSO slideshow with a non MSO element such as a frame, text boxt, image, ect..
x- taking the 5 images and pasting them into the MSO seperate, and then trying to turn them into a new MSO inside State 2, which the new MSO button is greyed out and will not let me apply it.
Possible solution I have come up with after looking over alot of Bob's stuff in the tutorials area
(PS his videos and tut's realy help, its a differant kind of thinking going on here with DPS, I imagine it relates to how the C in the binary works and is translated by the InDesign GUI into app code... would be nice to just type in "function on_tap(){open_slideshow(vars);}" lol silly programmer, this is primarily a tool for designers ... but I do think its awesomeness, as a programmer, I dont even want to write code anymore after using DPS and Phone Gap...),
so... here it is, not necessarily the most attractive...
1- Make the slide show MSO, push to BACK, set to auto play and swipe allowed...
2- place a large opaque box on top of the slideshow, group it with the OPEN button
3- create a close button
4- turn them into an MSO, now there is an 'open' button in state 1 on top of an opaque box that sends to state 2, and a 'close' button in state 2 that sends to state 1
This seems to work, I have not tested it on all devices, the iPad will kind of do this wierd glitchy thing, as if it "knows" there is something moving underneath the opaque box. Depending on how I have positioned scrollable frames on top of these elements from a stacking perspective there can be some unexpected behavior. The best results I have had from more complex layouts is to get creative with positioning...
any other suggestions, tips, tricks, would be appreciated
ON a site note:
POSSIBLE BUG:
ANYTIME I try to take ANYTHING that is already using the FOLIO OVERLAY and right click the STATE in the STATES PANEL
In Design total crash!!! The only time I can take a FOLIO OVERLAY (FO) and "right click paste into" an MSO state is by clicking on the state on the stage, it can not be done from the panel, the panel only works with non "FO" items... Even though the state in the panel shows the "past into" option, if I do, *poof* instant app crash... FYI for anyone toying with this. Kudo's to Adobe for the outstanding "auto save" feature. It has saved me time, and there for in some strange way, has also saved some of my life.
Here is what InDesign poops out when a "Folio object" is attempted to be "pasted into" an MSO via the MSO panel.
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name:          BEX
Application Name:          InDesign.exe
Application Version:          8.0.0.370
Application Timestamp:          4f72c3ee
Fault Module Name:          StackHash_0a9e
Fault Module Version:          0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp:          00000000
Exception Offset:          00000023
Exception Code:          c0000005
Exception Data:          00000008
OS Version:          6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID:          1033
Additional Information 1:          0a9e
Additional Information 2:          0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3:          0a9e
Additional Information 4:          0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

@zagarskas – nested MSOs are currently NOT supported by Adobe.
However we could build such a construct by using ExtendScript (Adobe's flavor of JavaScript).
The problem with that is, that Buttons inside a nested MSO will not work as expected. At least my testing is showing that.
If you want nested MSOs without Buttons (inside the nested one) or if you like to experiment, see the following thread:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4573924#4573924
But please, read the whole thread from a to z ;-)
Uwe

How to close a fullscreen Weboverlay with a MSO

Hi there,
for our Client we've developed a Fullscreen Overlay which replaces the Default Navigation (which works great). But we've the Problem that we can't Close the overlay completley.
We Show the overlay wih a MSO state, which works fine. Underneath in the state, which shows the fullscreen navigiation, is a button which acts as Close... it's purpose is to switch back to the default state with the overlay gone (which works if we disable user interaction on the Navigation overlay). The user should - and surley expects to - click anywhere on a empty Region in the Navigation to Close it again.
But the overlay is blocking the interaction with the underlying Close button in indesign.
We tried also with just an empty page covering Fullscreen - it is also blocking the complete underlying indesign objects from any interaction also the closing button
Javascript interaction with Indesign Obejcts?
Is it possible to call the state object from within the weboverlay with JavaScript? To call a different state in the MSO which disables the Fullscreen overlay and unblocks the indesign objects?
Best regards,
Andy
p.s. Sorry about all the capitalized letters... german autocorrection Messing up

There is no way to communication from JavaScript over to other interactive elements from InDesign such as a MSO.
Neil

HTML content rising in front of MSO

I have an HTML asset, and when I launch an MSO screen overlay, the HTML content is rising to the front, OVER my MSO, even though the MSO is on a layer above it. How do I remedy this?

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Do buttons work in a MSO in a PDF folio, version 25?

I created a button within a Scrollable frame, which is part of an MSO. The button is a blank frame over text, and it's anchored to that text. The buttom simply goes to a page in the document. When I click on the text, nothing happens. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks

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MSO problems on Android Viewer

Hi everyone,
I am currently working on a Multi-folio project for both Android and iOS tablets. I'm going to do my best to explain my system and my problem, but if you have any questions I'm free to answer them.
I've been using multi state objects for popup screen overlays (one default "off" blank state and one state "on" with the popup content).
I have two layers, one with the original page content and one for the multi state object + buttons to toggle it.
On the content layer I've placed a button to turn the MSO to the "on" state.
Nested within the Multi state object are two buttons (one to open an external URL and one to change the MSO back to it's first "off" state)
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• I have a button that says "See recipe" under a photo of cookies.
• User clicks the button to have the recipe take over the entire screen
• The user can either click "open in web" or "close" buttons now available
This is a system that has worked flawlessly on iOS devices but for some reason when I bring it over to the latest android Adobe Viewer on a Nexus 7, only certain instances of this work.
My project has about 20 pages of this and about 5 of them work. I didn't treat any of these 5 any differently from the rest so I'm curious what is at work here.
My plan is to make different renditions of my folio, but this is an obstacle I have to make it over first it seems!
Thanks in advance,
Kenny

Okay great. I am content with where this discussion went on the differences between Android and iOS on the same rendition of my folio.
As mentioned earlier, I'm pushing to make different renditions. This new rendition I'm working on is specifically for Android so I'm testing it constantly on both the desktop based viewer and the android viewer. Both always yield the same results. It seems like I get stuck at a certain step in the process:
• Testing on the desktop and android viewer, I find one Button + popup combination that works.
• Testing on the desktop and android viewer as well, I find another page with a popup that doesn't work.
• I delete the broken popup + button and replace it with a duplicate of the working popup + button.
• I test this page out on both viewers and they work flawlessly. This is great!
• I replace the content of the popup now with random rectangles and doodles for another test. This works flawlessly as well.
• I feel confident enough to replace the popup content and doodles with real content, so I paste my content in to the exact same state after deleting my old content.
• I test it out again, and find the button no longer fires. The "content" I just pasted in includes two buttons and a recipe. This means that two buttons are nested into one state, because these buttons can't show up if the recipe doesn't show up. It's as if it realizes the MSO is too complicated and simply gives up.
Unfortunately I don't the liberty of just giving up on this complicated issue like this button!
Buttons are all still linked. I'm so curious what the issue here is.
Does this help get the gears turning in any way?
Are the android and web viewers the same vs. the iOS viewer? The only reason why I figure there's an issuse with buttons / MSO is because both the web and android versions can't handle them. But if both viewers are inherently the same then that destroys the basis of my testing.

MSO Slideshow does not stop, even though "stop at last image" is checked...

Hey Guys,
So I have a problem with MSO Slideshows. I am using Sprint 18 across the board, both in InDesign and on my iPad. Here's how the problem goes:
- Build a MSO Slideshow with 3 states.
- Set it in the overlay creater to be an autoplay Slideshow.
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When I test it on screen, it works correctly. Then, when I upload the article and view on my iPad in Adobe Content Viewer, the slideshow plays, but instead of stopping at Frame 3, it goes back to Frame 1, and stops there.
I tried every imaginable configuration of the buttons/check boxes in the overlay creator, and I cannot get this to work properly. Any one else expereincing this problem, and/or have a solution? Thank you very much.

Doesn’t anyone bother to read?
I’m sorry, but It’s getting quite frustrating answering the same question over and over.
We now have about 15 threads on the same subject.
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In my 32 bits application, I use the IInPlacePrintPreview interface on a "word.document" OLE object to show a preview of a word document.
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1. Downloading ODT from: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=36778
2. After downloading the ODT, there will be a Configuration.xml file ODT installed folder. Modify the Configuration.xml file as below so that we can download home business package.
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<Language ID="en-us" />
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How can I connect a button in a MSO with a different MSO?

I created a slideshow which contains a button that needs to be connected with another MSO, which appears as a pop up window and contains another element that has an the overlay: pinch & zoom. Is this possible to be done?
Somehow the programme does not allow me to choose between 2 MSO in an article (DP).
Can you help me with a tutorial?
Thanks in advance!

Thank you for the reply.

Opening an Excel file configures MSO Pro 2007

Using Win7 & MSO Pro 2007.
When I try to open an Excel file two unusual things happen after the splash window opens
1> A message box opens and says stdole32.tlb. When dismissed by clicking
[OK]...
2> A window opens and starts to configure MSO Pro 2007 which takes 20-40 seconds to complete
Taking a clue from KB 2528748 ..
3> I looked in the registry at: HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Excel\Options and
found no NoReReg Key, so
4> I executed , in the RUN BOX..
reg add HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Excel\Options /v NoReReg /t REG_DWORD /d 1
The registry now contains the appropriate noReReg key BUT the the behavior remains unchanged.
Is this likely due to the unclear message about stdole32.tlb at
1>?
Could some one help me unravel and fix this nuisance problem?
Thanx
Arvin

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Please try the following method and check if it is helpful:
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http://www.experts-exchange.com/Software/Office_Productivity/Office_Suites/MS_Office/Excel/Q_28171576.html
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How to put an MSO inside another MSO

Hello all!
An interesting question came up in the following post by Folobo:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4572897#4572897
"Is it possible to use a slideshow embedded in a big overlay slideshow?"
I'd like to rephrase this question:
"Is it possible to put a MultiStateObject (MSO) inside another MultiStateObject?"
And further: if the answer is "yes", could we put that to use with the DPS?
@Folobo – this is an interesting question. A quick test is showing that you cannot do it in the UI (correct me if I'm wrong).
Let's try it this way:
If you have two objects:
1. an MSO #1 (with two rectangles, rectangle #1, rectangle #2)
2. Another rectangle on the page: rectangle #3
Now select the two objects and make an MSO out of it (using the "Object States" panel).
You would think, now I get an MSO with two states, state 1 with rectangle #3 together with state 2 with MSO #1.
But not so:
Result: One new MSO with three states (rectangle #1, rectangle #2, rectangle #3)
Hm. I don't give up on that. Let's try it another way:
Could we select at least two objects inside a state of an MSO and make that a new MSO?
Sure, We could select two objects inside a state, but since we are *inside* an MSO the "Object States" panel does not show the possibility to make a new MSO. You can only add states or add objects to states…
Frustrating. End of story? Maybe…
Be forewarned. The following is highly experimental!
Let's try it by scripting (ExtendScript/JavaScript).
The scripting reference is showing that an MSO "MultiStateObject" object has an add()-method. And further on, that add()-method could be applied to:
Document
Spread
MasterSpread
Page
Layer
pageItem
And that is the key to a possible solution. We could add a new MSO to a "pageItem" object.
A simple rectangle should be qualify for a "pageItem" object; and that, of course, could reside in a state of an MSO.
So, we could add a new MSO to a rectangle inside of a MSO!
How can we access a rectangle inside a MSO? Easy: We could select it and work with that selection.
So let's do that: select the rectangle in the first state of an MSO and run this one-line-script (be sure you did select the rectangle and not the MSO or one of its states:
app.selection[0].multiStateObjects.add();
We now have an MSO inside another MSO!
Explanation:
A "generic MSO" was added with the add()-function to a selection (the container object: in our case the selected rectangle).
The "generic MSO" is a two state MSO consisting of one rectangle in each state of a very small size (10px x 10px).
At first it is invisible, because it is very likely that it is positioned outside the geometric bounds of its container object (the rectangle).
But we can customize this!
Go to the layers palette and select the new MSO, move it inside the geometric bounds of its container object, readjust its size, add states as you wish, populate the states with images, and other objects etc.pp.
So, what can we do with an MSO inside another MSO? (As I already said, this is highly experimental.)
My experiments with that are very fresh. I did not try a lot. But it seems that we could at least autoplay this MSO.
I have to test more thoroughly what is possible and what will work with buttons etc.pp…
I really like to hear from you what you will find out and if you can put it to any use.
Uwe
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@Mobly – in case it did not work out for you, here some screen grabs for the different steps:
1. Select an MSO:
2. Select a "graphic frame" inside the MSO; in this case a "<square>"; you can see the big blue dot in the Layers panel behind the generic name "<square>":
3. Open the Scripts Panel and select the script:
4. Run the script by double-clicking the script; the generic name of your selected object has changed to "graphic frame", but trust me, it's still a square…
5. Click the "Ok" button of the message and InDesign will select the new MSO ("Multi-state 2") as you can see here. It has two states with one rectangle each, fill and stroke is "None":
And: you can see that this new MSO is nested inside the MSO ("Multi-state 1").
What you do with that construct is up to you:
6. Color the "<square>" of state 1 of "Multi-state 2":
7. Resize and change position of "Multi-state 2":
8. But remember: "Multi-state 2" is nested in the graphic frame you selected before running the script:
I hope you get the picture now…
Uwe

Objects in MSO refuse to link to articles

Hi there,
I realize this is a pretty insignificant problem compared to the complexity I'm reading about here in this forum - but I'm new to this...and really could use some help.
This was not a problem with the other app I built - but I have not been having success this time around. I have a slideshow of 8 images, and want to enable a jump to related ariticles when the images are tapped. The first image behaves correctly but the other 7 do not link at all. I tried making the images themselves buttons and created hyperlinks using 'navto' to point to the articles. This did not work for any except the first image. I also attempted to add hotspots to the individual images with invisible text frames converted to buttons, but the information applied to any one button populates all the other text frames/buttons. Any ideas? I'm sure it's some small thing I'm missing - but I'm stumped.
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This issue with the MSO is really weird. It has worked for me before, although I think perhaps I had behginner's luck. I think the parent-child link might have something to do with it but have no idea how to unlink "it". In addition, is there any way to clean out unused hyperlinks etc. that are cluttering things up. I am about to give up and just recreate this thing as I've tried every possible combination of button, hyperlink etc. (which is probably a good reason why everything at the moment is totally bunged up). The rest of my work looks great - it's just this one article. So very very annoying....

Generating RoboHelp for Word with RH6 in HTML Doesn't Remove MSO styles

Here's the Word portion of the question, which I really
should post under a separate heading. (The WebHelp portion is under
WebHelp - DiMost, posted March 19, 2007)
In RHx5, I use(d) RoboHelp for Word to convert my documents
from an Information Mapping format (with tables) to a stripped-down
document that I converted to HTML without all the Word inline
styles.
- Applied a "conversion" template to the doc
- Imported the doc into the RH for Word file.
- Converted the styles and removed page breaks
- Converted ONE heading to the main topic
- Created WinHelp and checked to be sure there are no
corrupted tables and the topic converted
- Generated in WebHelp
- Imported the HTML document output to the main WebHelp
project. (The document arrives without all the MSO word inline
styles)
- Applied the CSS for the project.
Document conversion complete....all the inline styles were
removed.
NOW, RH 6 retains all the styles and converts every heading
style to a topic, even though RH5 did not.
Converting it in RoboHelp for Word x5 worked really well, but
doesn't appear to work now. And importing the Word doc directly
into RH6 for the WebHelp project is still the huge mess it was
before. It looks like it still requires hand-stripping all that
code out by hand.
Believe me, I have tried everything (including freestanding
apps) to get rid of the Word (MSO-whatever) embedded styles out of
the Word HTML.
I welcome any ideas. Thanks!
Diana

I don't think anything changed on defining what should be a
new topic. Check the options as you import as that can make such a
difference and of course your RH6 settings will be different
initially.

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