MSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache vs hybrid drive

I'm thinking of buying an ENVY laptop and noticed there are 2 separate options for SSD. One is an hybrid hard drive and the other is mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache. What is the difference and what are the benefits of each. Also...
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Please see Wikipedia - Hybrid drive for information on both hybrid / caching styles. The mSSD / HDD style is typically based on two seperate drives and Intel Smart Response Technology (which is implemented through a combination of certain Intel chipsets and Intel storage drivers). The hybrid HDD style is typically based a traditional hard drive and NAND flash memory on one chassis and is fully impemented on the drive.
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Yes it does not mount as a lettered drive. It is combined with the main drive in a RAID array. Look in the list of programs and find Intel Rapid Storage Technology and open it up. If you have the 24 gig cache drive it will look something like this:
See the two drives listed in the upper right corner?
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Why can't I use the 16GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) with 24GB flash Hard Drive Acceleration Cache?

I tried to customize the Envy 15t but I can't proceed on upgrading the following.
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Hi,
The 24Gb cache drive will store manything and normally it will need at least twice the size (capacity) of RAM. Double 16Gb is 32Gb therefore 24Gb is not big enough.
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24GB flash Hard Drive Acceleration Cache

Getting ready to by an Envy TouchSmart 15t-j100 quad edition with the standard hard drive. Is the acceleration cache a worthy add?? Also, there is a good chance I will pull the hard drive and replace with an SSD drive if i don't like the start up times. Does it make sense to use the Acceleration cache with the SSD??
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The acceleration cache cannot be used with an SSD. The Intel Rapid Storage Technology program will look for regular hard drives and mSSD drives and let you "accelerate" the regular hard drive with the mSSD. The mSSD cache drive will tremendously improve boot time, and provides some upgrade to overall storage performance. I have run full test on this with my Envy 17-j029nr having a 24 gig cache drive and 1 TB 5400 rpm drive, and hardware very similar to the laptop you are considering. With the cache drive enabled boot time goes from about 1:30 to about 25 seconds. The average data transfer speed goes from about 40 MB/s to about 70 MB/s. With a main SSD drive you can expect boot times of about 35 seconds and sustained data transfer speeds of more like 3-500 MB/s. If money is tight and you want to boost the speed on a bang for the buck basis get the mSSD cache drive. It is worthy. If you want to maximize the performance all the way, get an SSD.
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Ssd cache and hybrid drive

I am looking to order the HP 17t-j000 with 8GB of memory. It offers both SSD cache and a Hybrid drive as options, and you can choose both. Does it make sense to get both, or is this just redundant? I

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Solid State Drive or Solid State Hybrid Drive?

I have a Mac Mini late 2012, with 1TB running Yosemite and 16GB of ram and I'm thinking of getting either a SSD or SSHD. Looking for some opinions about either one. The research I've done so far doesn't seem to find much of a difference in terms of speed between the two. Of course the price is a big factor and I also write and record a lot of music so that would be a factor too.
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That will depend on the definiton of "standard." If standard is the typical 5400 rpm drive that ships with a MacMini, Yes. If it's a 5400 rpm Fusion drive setup, then, No.
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Hello, I have the above laptop, purchased on 12-2010. Because I dropped it by mistake, it cracked the the left bottom shell and the screen hingue is lose so I have a white screen view now, but other than that the laptop works. It does not warrant the expense to repair this issue, so I have decided to buy a new laptop and keep this one as a desktop use. I have it connected to an old CRT monitor right now and it working great and doing the job (I will eventually look into getting an HP monitor to have a more modern montior). I am actually very happy that there is still life in this notebook, the view is much better on this old CRT monitor and other than the stupid mistake of actually throwing my book bag without realizing that the laptop was in it (a lape of memory), this laptop has been well cared for - only issue is that it gets very hot at times, not sure why since I do not really play games on it, but I understand this model has had this issue anyway.
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Any help is appreciated, so thanks in advance.
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Graphics on notebooks are typically soldered to the motherboard. Notebooks, when it comes to critical components, are typically locked into that configuration. Some components, like the processor, may be possible but it is not an easy task.
This guide by erico, one of the community experts, answers a lot of questions about upgrading the hardware in a notebook. This may be worth reading if upgrading the hardware is something you are interested in.
Unlike desktops, notebooks aren't really designed to be upgraded. This is largely due to how the notebook is designed with cooling in mind. More powerful components will generate more heat and the initial cooling design (fans, heatsinks, and airflow) may not be adequate to handle the additional heat being generated.
It really sounds like this notebook doesn't quite meet what you are looking for. The graphics card is something that is generally not upgradeable/addable and it does not appear this unit has the necessary architecture to support the cache drive option. Just to add some clarity, the cache drive architecture typically relies on a RAID configuration to accomplish that task. Since the RAID driver (Intel RST) is missing from the download page, it appears this unit does not have RAID capabilities.
If boot speed is something you are looking for, upgrading the HDD as a whole to a standard SSD may be the best option for your needs. However, looking at a new notebook may be the best option if you also want improved hardware such as the graphics card.
This notebook comes stock with a 32GB mSSD cache drive. It looks like the ultrabooks include a cache drive as I looked at four different ones and each had a cache drive included. They didn't list it in the specs of the notebook, but it was listed when I selected the customize option. However, the ultrabooks more than likely won't have the video card you are looking for due to the compact size the ultrabooks are designed for. The Envy line typically has the most options for video cards.
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I have been given contradictory answers from 2 different HP sales reps.
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I have also been considering upgrading my MBP (early 2008 model, I think) that has the Seagate Momentus XT 500GB drive.
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Mac pro hybrid drive

Hi there guys,
My Mac pro 1.1 2007 boot times are relativly slow, and was considering a "seagate 1tb hybrid hard drive". My questions are:
1) Has anybody put in a hybrid hard drive into a mac pro 1.1 2007? What were the results?
2) Will it work correctly?
3) Does the mac contain a function to COMPLETELY COPY my main hard drive (With Mac OSX) to the hybrid drive if i get one, then if i replaced the old hard drive with the hybrid, would it work fine?
I want a SSHD because they are significantly cheaper than SSD, and have a large space which i want. I DONT have much money to spend, hence i am not buying a SSD. With this hybrid, my boot times should also rapidly increase correct? As the OS will go onto the solid state part ?
please if you HAVE EXPERIENCE or know someone who has done it or are CONFIDENT WITH THE RESULTS, please, please anyswer my questions!!
Thanks a lot guys!

By far the biggest payback (once you have enough RAM) for a Mac that supports multiple drives is to establish a Boot Drive, with only the System, Library, Applications, and the hidden unix files including Paging/Swap. User files are moved off to another drive.
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Hi mate
Welcome to the forums
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