Mulitple partition, one for Bootcamp to play PC Games?

Hi everyone,
I have a thought, I play PC games with my sons, and also still like windows xp, what I have been using is boot camp, but I find myself there all the time, and as of today my MAC is still in repair, so I have been thinking that maybe I can take one partition to play games in BC, and another so that I can run Leopard and VM, to utilize the best of both worlds, I miss my MAC applications but also have a lot of Windows items as well...can I do this? Any ideas.
Why I have stayed with BC thus far, after trying Paralles is that the drivers do not work with the games and losing half my ram....like the concept but not the execution, reading about VM and wondered if that will give me more of what I am looking for...THX in advance.

I'm not sure of what "BC" is but...
You can set up one partition for Windows, Boot Camp will do it for you, so you don't need to reformat anything.
Also, new software often allows you to use the Boot Camp Partition as your Windows file, so you don't have two copies. I suggest you look on the site (Parallels or Fusion) to check out their features.
This way you can boot into Windows for your games (with little, if at all any, loss of CPU, RAM, et cetera) and into your Mac for your Mac applications. Also, if you are on OS X and want to run a windows program, you can do so through the program without having to boot into Windows. It'll mean slowing down your Windows programs, but it's fine for programs (not games).
Lastly, just a little tip, Mac is a Macintosh computer, MAC is a Media Access Controller. They are both computer terms and you don't want to get them confused. XD.

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