Multi-bay enclosures w Mavericks

Hello,
At first, thinking that a Mac would not be able to read anything plugged into it seemed ridiculous, yet, I have seen reviews for some multi-bay enclosures that say they have stopped working after upgrading to Mavericks, posted as recent as yesterday.
I was hoping for a recommendation for a quality, at least 4 to 6-bay 3.5 SATA enclosure, for 5TB minimum, USB3, Firewire or eSATA connection (plan on using thunderbolt adapter), RAID not necessary its a JBOD but it will house my Time Machine drive so reliablility is a must!
Sometimes, it's hard to find the right third-party accessory to use for a Mac. I was hoping people here would have some advice on this. Am I even approaching it properly? The discs are the four from my old Mac Pro to hook up to the new one. And, it is possible that one of the discs is a Seagate green disc (its been so long I can't remember). I saw where that makes a difference too. But, if it has everything but can't handle that, then I will move the data to a new one. Currently, they are only available via the old Mac Pro thru an ethernet.
Thanks for the help! Have a great day!!
Lisa Rose

I have two Burly multi drive enclosures conected via a Thunderbolt conversion. Make sure your Esata supports port multipliers.
These guys are very knowledgeable and the service is excellent.
http://www.macgurus.com/store/Category/SATAEnclosures
MtD

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When choosing a SATA enclosure you have to decide what is most important to you. Acoustics or heat? The very quiet enclosures usually run warmer than the very cool enclosures.
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1. Hot swap drive tray enclosures that make it very easy to remove and replace SATA hard drives.
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1EN2 $169.95
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Using a PC case
I have looked at the possibility of using a PC case but they are so large and take up so much more room than a Addonics Storage Tower that can hold 6 drives. In addition, if you want hot swap you still have to buy the drive cages as PC cases do not come with them for free. Once you put 8 drives in a PC case and try to move it you will understand why a 6 bay Storage Tower is easier to move and takes up a lot less space. I am still looking at various drive ideas but I have not found a PC case yet that looks great next to a G5. There may be some other options coming soon though. I have seen 12 bay SATA rack units that are coming down in price. I would much rather have one of them than a PC when their prices drop to under $500.
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