Multi Cam. Multi Track Sync

Hey everyone, I'm hoping there is some super genius on here that can help me
Every now and then I do a multi-cam even with multiple tracks of audio. It's going to become more frequent so I want to streamline my work flow.
At current I record all my audio tracks into logic, and sync my cameras via LTC... so there is no audio-video sync. I just manually sync audio and video in final cut after I've polished the audio in logic.
How does my work flow need to work to make this happen ?
If I purchased something like this to convert the LTC to Word clock.. can I just feed this into my audio interface.. and logic can use that as clock ?
http://www.primalgear.com/rosendahlclock003.html
The next interface I'm looking at buying does have Word clock in.. but my current one doesn't.. can I buy a separate interface for this ? or is there another way of doing it ?...
Someone told me I can just record the LTC SMPTE to an audio channel and final cut can sync to that ?
..Oh god.. I am confused.. to many "maybe I should do it like this.."
Anyone have a tried and tested approach ?
cheers
Alex
the setup
4X Canon XLH1's
1 Mackie Onyx 16.4 with FW card (16 pre's)
Mac book pro.
and my next interface will be
a RME Micstacy over MADI (bigggg step up)

I record all my audio tracks into logic, and sync my cameras via LTC...
Why don't you just do a rough edit in FCP, export it, load the movie into Logic,
and record your audio tracks to picture? In Logic, you could even set the "Project
Settings : Synchronization : Bar position__plays at SMPTE__" to be your starting LTC.
When you're done with your audio, you can lay it back to the video in FCP using
the timecode relationship you established at the beginning.

Similar Messages

  • Multi-Camera Multi Audio Track

    Premiere Pro CS4
    I know that there is an answer to this question, but I just can find it.  I've used/done work using mulit-cam many times. It seems that I've just lost it.
    I am trying to edit in multicam but keep losing my audio when ever it's not in/on track one. 
    Is there some way to merge the audio into one track before I start multicam.  If I have to roll-edit everything, then what's the use in using multicam.  I know there's a way.  I need this project done yesterday... No last month.  HELP

    I have since purchased Soundbooth and have been chk
    in tutorials on Lynda.com.  Pretty cool stuff.  I am learngin that
    most of the problems that I have won't be trageted directly, but
    there's always a work around.  Just this morning I've realized that
    I can only link the audio.  Trying to import directly into SB won't work.  I have to give customer DVD.  What I did was where the audio was blank due to audio being on different track than the target track, I just filled (cut and paste) into those spots.  I wish there was some way to link all of the tracks back to Pr.  This way I could clean up everything at once and the Encore...
    Also, I created a DVD last night of this party and notice somethings needed to be adjusted.  After the adjustments were made, when I went back to rebuild DVD, I didn't notice the changes.  I am in the process of rendering again-  Pr.  I hope that works.
    Thanks for ur help.
    Jonathan

  • Solution for Multi Cam Crashes on Audio Sync?

    I am having major issues when trying to create a multi-cam clip by syncing audio. It will process a few clips and then I will get a serious error message. I would say it occurs on about 8 of every 10 attempts. At first I thought it was because I was selecting too many clips (I'm shooting a doc and sometimes need to sync 100 plus clips from multiple cameras to multiple audio tracks) But it also crashes when I try to sync a single audio track to only a handful of clips.
    I'm on an I-Mac mid 2011. I've updated the OS to Yosemite, no luck. Tech support said to upgrade my RAM to 16g, I did that and it still crashes. I've re-installed the software, still crashes. Reset the preferences, still crashes. I've installed the software on a new administrator account, still crashes. I've changed the renderer to software only, still crashes.
    I also have a Macbook Pro Retina 2013 running OS 10.8. I've tried creating multi-cams by syncing audio on that computer as well. Still getting crashes. I've tried all the changes on the lap top that I did on the I-Mac (change renderer, re-install, new administrator, reset preferences, etc) Still getting crashes.
    I've tried different projects, different footage, different drives, placing the media on the internal hard drives. Still crashes.
    I'm assuming there must be a conflict of some sort, but can't figure it out. Tech Support has been less than helpful (when I can reach them) and I'm hoping someone knows a solution. I just moved to Premiere Pro and this issue might make it a non-starter for me.
    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    Update: I just happened happened to have a pair of ath m50s lying around.... put them on and I can see that in the multi cam sequence, I can hear only out of the left ear... once I drag and drop something to my timeline the audio's good again...
    Sorry for this question... operator???
    I shoot tech videos on YouTube and I edit my own videos, so I guess I am the operator & observer here...
    Am shooting a tutorial...
    Cam 1 - My Camcorder that shoots the phone
    Cam 2 - Actually a screen recorder that records the steps on screen & audio from webcam
    Audio - Blue Spark Digital recording to audacity
    Now if I merge Cam 1 & Audio or Cam 2 & Audio alls fine... I can check the audio meters and everythings the same as before
    But if I create a multicamera sequence then the audio output is about 20% lower (and no Premiere's not using the audio source from Cam1 or 2 here since they are too low and am 100% sure its not either of those)
    I guess am messing up something but am unable to identify what..
    Syncronize Point - Audio
    Track Channel - 1
    Sequence Preset - Automatic
    Audio Sequence Settings - Camera 1
    Audio Channels Preset - Automatic (or Mono since my Blue Spark records in mono)
    Camera Names - Enumerate Cameras
    Any Idea where am messing up?
    Ash
    Message was edited by: C4ETech

  • Multi cam synced, can't create the new seq from clip

    multi cam work flow.  trying to follow through the tutorials and help - but stuck.  I have synced 2 cams with audio, next step says to create new sequence from clip - but when I do all I get is a 1 second sequence (it should have been 15mins.  Tried all the methods listed, now randomly trying select all, targets tracks, etc, ? 

    edit -
    That helped, back at it - thanks.  New trouble -  although I can now make the multi-cam target sequence of the correct duration, I move into program monitor for editing the multi cam display enabled, the separate sources/cams no longer show in the window...  it's just blank.  I've checked my vid drivers- up to date with manufacturer (not windows) updates. 

  • Premiere Pro CC multi camera sync

    I have a problem here: When trying to create a multi-camera-source file. I have two cameras, with audio from the camera and a .wav file from my zoom recorder. The .wav file has been adjusted in Audition CS6  
    Premiere pro cc sync's all the camera audio and video just fine,  it creates a multi-camera-source nested file , but the .wav file from my zoom is out of sync despite there being a 'very' audible hand-clap on all the tracks ...
    This would be a great feature if it worked.
    Any ideas why this might happen and any ideas for solutions.

    HI Mark,
    Hope you don't mind me bringing this up here but I also had an issue with Syncing clips with new multicam feature. Mine was slightly different though in that often we film with two cameras and a Zoom H4N recording audio.
    Often we will stop and start the cameras but then sync using audio waveform with the always recording zoom H4N. In Plural Eyes this would sync great and all the camera shots would stay in one video track in the timeline (i.e. the one assigned to that camera). However, using Adobe Sync option it made a new video track for each shot from each camera!! I had about 40 new video tracks to sort through and the sync hadn't worked.
    Is there a way to enable all the shots from one camera to stay on the one track when syncing via Adobe?
    Cheers for any help.
    Best wishes,
    Alex

  • Audio out of sync with multi-cam

    Hi *,
    I searched the forum with no big success. Many people seem to have the no-audio problem with multicam. My problem is different.
    I enabled the multi-cam feature in CS4.1 in the preview (source) monitor. I have 2 video tracks (1 MPG, 1 AVCHD). Both appear and are in sync. Also the audio is in sync as long as the multi-cam feature is turned off. As I turn it on and play the monitor, it's totally out of sync with the video. Totally means, that it's really about 40 minutes away.
    Any ideas?
    - Stefan

    Any ideas?
    My only recommendation is to just not use GOP-based media.  It's a bad idea at it's core and issues like this are not uncommon.

  • Using Audio Sync for Multi-Cam Edits Premiere Pro CC

    Hello everyone - I wanted to share some issues I've come across while using Audio to sync multiple camera angles....
    For my music video shoot I have two cameras and an external recorder where I capture the audio and then edit in GarageBand or Adobe Audition. The problem I've discovered is that when I sync the clips using audio it will degrade the quality of my finalized audio clip.
    Basically, something is happening to the audio clip quality once Premiere completed the synchronization process. I've rendered the video, exported the video etc... But there is still audio quality degradation.
    I've compared this with Final Cut Pro X and the Audio in FCP X remains unchanged and is not altered in any way.
    Has anyone else experienced this issue?

    Update: I just happened happened to have a pair of ath m50s lying around.... put them on and I can see that in the multi cam sequence, I can hear only out of the left ear... once I drag and drop something to my timeline the audio's good again...
    Sorry for this question... operator???
    I shoot tech videos on YouTube and I edit my own videos, so I guess I am the operator & observer here...
    Am shooting a tutorial...
    Cam 1 - My Camcorder that shoots the phone
    Cam 2 - Actually a screen recorder that records the steps on screen & audio from webcam
    Audio - Blue Spark Digital recording to audacity
    Now if I merge Cam 1 & Audio or Cam 2 & Audio alls fine... I can check the audio meters and everythings the same as before
    But if I create a multicamera sequence then the audio output is about 20% lower (and no Premiere's not using the audio source from Cam1 or 2 here since they are too low and am 100% sure its not either of those)
    I guess am messing up something but am unable to identify what..
    Syncronize Point - Audio
    Track Channel - 1
    Sequence Preset - Automatic
    Audio Sequence Settings - Camera 1
    Audio Channels Preset - Automatic (or Mono since my Blue Spark records in mono)
    Camera Names - Enumerate Cameras
    Any Idea where am messing up?
    Ash
    Message was edited by: C4ETech

  • Viewing multi-cam monitor for multi-cam sequences not on track 1

    Hi,
    I just found out that the multi-cam monitor in the Program Monitor goes blank if the multi-cam sequence is not on track 1. Is there a way to fix this? Thank you in advance.

    How do you toggle the track targeting so that you can see the multi-cam preview for two stacked multi-cam sequences? I'd like to cut between different takes and it'd be a pain to toggle every time. Final Cut Pro has no problem of doing this but it seems that Premiere is a little picky about track targeting. I attached an example of how the project would look like going through two takes of multi-cam sequences.

  • Adobe Premiere CC, Trying to Sync 2 camera for Multi cam edit.

    Hi,
    I am at present trying out Premeire CC, my workflow is usually a minimum of a 2 camera shoot for weddings, what I am trying todo in CC is to try and sync all the clips together for a multi cam sequence ready to edit.
    I have followed various options fropm Adobe TV and some you tube videos with no luck.
    I have 2 folders imported one folder for cam 1 and second folder for cam 2. I  select all the clips and select the new multi cam option, and choose audio for syncing. CC status bar come up and looks like it is syncing, however at the end a error comes up saying one or more clips could not be synced.
    at present with CS6 I put both camera footage on one timeline video 1 video 2, I then export as an xml, and use red giant plural eyes for syncing, I then import xml back into premiere, and all files are synced pretty good. I would say 90 to 100% of time without to many issues.
    can some one advise if this is possble is CC, if so whats the best method. thank you
    Windows 7 64
    Baz
    UK

    Premiere Pro cannot do this automatically.  You will need to create a multicam sequence for each pair of clips, cut those, and then add them to the main edit as needed.
    Little tip: knowing that each segment will need it's own multicam sequence, let the cameras run until that segment is over.

  • Multi cam sequence - how to take audio from multiple tracks?

    I have a multi cam sequence with multiple audio sources (cameras plus separate audio tracks).
    According to this page, in order to have multiple audio sources, I need to mix them into a track in the source sequence:
    http://help.adobe.com/en_US/PremierePro/4.0/WSADF1BC06-B8FB-4f23-8446-8D8F8539D7BD.html
    So I mixed several tracks into submix 1. But when I use the multi cam monitor, submix 1 is not available as an audio source.
    Is it perhaps possible to mix audio into a non submix track? If so, how?
    premiere cs4

    Multicam can only use audio 1, or audio follows video (you hear whichever track you see).  There's no way to hear more than one track at a time.

  • Video Disappears in Multi camera edits CS5.5, source tracks visable

    I have had this occur more than once, and I am not sure what is going on, or if it can be fixed.
    I am editing a 3 camera multi sequence, MacBook Pro, i5 processor, 8 gigs of Ram.
    I save frequently, as for some reason, Premiere crashes occasionally, always after a lengthy session of edits (unsaved of course!).
    Yesterday, after a series of edits, it crashed. I had saved just before this, so I chose NOT to re-open the file using the "re-Open" button on the crash notifing screen, and instead opened the original project from the file menu.
    When it opened, I noticed that camera 3 in the multicam edits was black: no video. BUT, I have audio from the time line. The video portion is simply black, and it is showing black in the multi-cam screen too.
    Ah HA! I say to myself... The track is turned off in the "source" sequence, so I look to turn it back on, and it is not OFF. It is visable, and should be seen in the multicam section. I tried turning it off, then on again, and still no luck.
    I don't want to have to start over, but I don't know what to do. This has happened before, but with smaller seqences, so I just re-editied the sequence.
    Anyone know what is going on?
    Thanks!

    Well, seems I am chasing my tail here... Not a problem with the tracks, but a problem in the sequence saving the wrong camera in the multi cam edit. When the system shut down, it must have changed the cuts funny, as the camera that was black, had no video in the track at the time of the cut. So it looks like the program saved the camera cuts incorrectly, and there wasn't an issue with the tracks not showing up. I just had to look more carefully.
    Strange, but, that's technology for ya!

  • Multi-camera audio with multiple tracks

    In Premier Pro 2 I was somehow able to use the automation features to adjust levels throughout my videos on multiple tracks, and that mix would flow through to the multi-camera sequence.
    It didn't work in Premier Pro 3.1.1 when I just tried it. I then noticed that the help file says "In order to retain audio from more than one track simultaneously, mix all the desired tracks to a single track in the source sequence, select the resulting audio track, and deselect the Audio Follows Video option."
    I opened my old projects in 3.1.1 and the multiple tracks still play in the multi-camera sequence.
    1: How was I able to do this before and can I still do it?
    2: If I must mix all tracks to a single track in the source sequence, how do I do that? I can't figure that out.

    You have two choices, either you can hear the audio for the selected camera, or just audio track 1. You can't hear all audio tracks simultaneously without a little tweaking.
    Once you're done with the multicam cut, place another instance in the new sequence on tracks 2. Then delete the video from track 2, and move the audio from track 2 onto track 1. This will allow all audio tracks from the original sequence to be heard.

  • Multi-Cam sync on audio vs inpoints

    I have been following several links on the world wide web  on PP CC multi cam functionality.
    In all of my research I caught a 32 milli-second snippet of of someone speaking while demonstrating Multicam where he something to the effect that using audio to sync video clips for the purpose of performing multi cam editing KEEPS the video clips in sync. No elaboration of any kind was said on this subject.
    It seems to me that a 2 hour dance recital that I will doing a two camera shoot of can certainly "Drift" out of sync from the sync point that will be at the beginning of each clip, EG camera flash or hand clap.
    I do not know what the time base in a typical camera is based on. I am guessing that a crystal controled oscillator running at several megacycles is what is used, but that is only a guess.
    HOWEVER,
    If PP is keeping the clips in sync by ALWAYS looking at audio, then using audio to sync video clips is a Superior method over anything else. Besides, if a camera is accidently powered off / on you have nothing to do in terms of re syncing the cameras.
    I just wish that there was more information about using audio for syncing clips in multi cam editing.
    If anyone can elaborate on this subject I would very much appreciate it.
    Thanks

    It seems to me that a 2 hour dance recital that I will doing a two camera shoot of can certainly "Drift" out of sync from the sync point
    That's certainly not normal.  I'm not sure why you'd think it is.
    Personally, I find manually syncing to be faster than PP's audio sync.

  • Multi Camera in CS5.5 What is wrong?

    For years I have been making usually two multi camera edits for dance recitals. I usually export the edited files
    in the same format to another HD on my computer. 
    I then go to that new directory and start a new project with the edited files.  Import the files into the new project
    and line them up on the timeline. 
    This year I have some files that have stuck with only Camera Two edits or sometimes Camera Two sound.  If I go back
    to the original edit and make another file with the same timeline and a different name it works.  My only hunch is that
    it has something to do with Indexing and Conforming when I start the new project with the edited files. 
    Any suggestions?

    My workflow is:
    1. Import all footage (HDV)
    2. Place all footage on timeline, syncing both cameras (this is for an entire show, 2 hours average duration) If I have any dropouts I find them where the audio of both tracks do not line up, so I make adjustments to the track that has the dropout and re-sync from that point on. If your second/alternative shot will not cover the dropout of the other camera, re import just the dropout section.
    3. Nest into new sequence and do multicam edit
    4. Close multicam and go back into the nested sequence and perform the fine edits, add titles and credits, cut out dead space, etc...
    5. Export that sequence for DVD/Blu-Ray production.
    For audio, I usually copy the audio from the first sequence (original) and paste it to the nested sequence after the multicam edit. Then I can choose which track of audio to use as I go, or make adjustments, etc...
    I've never had any issues with cuts not holding, or audio being incorrect, with this workflow.

  • Editing using Multi-cam option

    I have to edit a show I did not shoot- 3 panasonic AF100A  cameras supposedly synched TC wise, with the main camera receiving a feed the show audio board. Each camera has a different view, so I obviously want to pick and choose the best coverage to make a lean looking show a tad better. I've been told the best option is to edit in multi-camera mode. True? Using an iMac, with show files on an external HD. I imported each of the files into the project by clicking the 'private' folder for each. Then I selected them all, selected multicam option and then show in timeline. Couple of questions: do I need to sync the beginning of each clip or does the TC take care of that? It appears my main video and audio track is off a bit- should I just pull all the tracks as far to the left as possible to ensure timeline synching?
    How do I view each camera at the same time, so I can compare footage?
    I'm not ignorant, I just haven't used Premiere in years and I'm primarily a shooter, so any help  or advice is appreciated

    I have to edit a show I did not shoot- 3 panasonic AF100A  cameras supposedly synched TC wise, with the main camera receiving a feed the show audio board. Each camera has a different view, so I obviously want to pick and choose the best coverage to make a lean looking show a tad better. I've been told the best option is to edit in multi-camera mode. True? Using an iMac, with show files on an external HD. I imported each of the files into the project by clicking the 'private' folder for each. Then I selected them all, selected multicam option and then show in timeline. Couple of questions: do I need to sync the beginning of each clip or does the TC take care of that? It appears my main video and audio track is off a bit- should I just pull all the tracks as far to the left as possible to ensure timeline synching?
    How do I view each camera at the same time, so I can compare footage?
    I'm not ignorant, I just haven't used Premiere in years and I'm primarily a shooter, so any help  or advice is appreciated

Maybe you are looking for