Multi cam play problem

what i want to do is edit multi-cam on the fly. my footage is dvcpro hd 720p 59.94 that i captured through kona. i have set up a raid 0 for my my 3 internal 1tb hard drives. i have 4 cams that i have multiclipped. for the most part, the multiclip plays fine in the viewer. however after i edit it into the sequence, select multiclip in the button bar and set the playback head to open, it tells me it's unrendered in both the viewer and canvas and won't play the picture. also i frequently get the dropped frame error warning. when i deselect multiclip playback on the timeline, the sequence does play, but the quad split only advances when i pause which isn't all that useful. on avid with this particular footage format i could step down the playback quality (from green to yellow) and the quad split would play fine though blurry. in any case, does anyone have any ideas. thanks.

Did you try what the Unlimited RT setting?
The multiclip threshold is dependent upon your system. Based on your OP, it seems as if you have the drives for it, but what about your computer?
I was able to use 7 clips of 1080i Pro Res content in a multiclip before I got an orange (unlimited RT) line above my footage.
Andy

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Hi
I'm working on PC. I've encountered a lot of problems in working on multi camera in Adobe Premiere CC. Could anybody could help me solve these problems?
1- when I work on Multi camera, after doing some edits, when I put some inserts in upper layers, the synchronization (sound-film) gets lost.
2- In working on Multi camera, after lots of edit and choosing of different cameras, when I close and reopen the project, the edit points are still there, but the image is from elsewhere (not sync at all) and you've actually lost all the time you made edits.
3- In another example: after using some cameras and doing some edits on Multi camera, when I closed and then reopened the project, all of that layer was back on one camera (camera 3).
Thanks, Jim.

Is the "linked selection" icon selected or not? You can find that on the top right of your timeline. Toggling it allows you to drop a nested sequence (eg. multicam) on a timeline as either one single nested clip or as the expanded view with all the clips showing which it sounds like you are referring to. It's the middle icon here:
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Multi camera synchronization problems on Premier CC 5 minutes ago

HiI've encountered a lot of problems in working on multi camera in Adobe Premiere CC. Could anybody could help me solve these problems?
1- when I work on Multi camera, after doing some edits, when I put some inserts in upper layers, the synchronization (sound-film) gets lost.
2- In working on Multi camera, after lots of edit and choosing of different cameras, when I close and reopen the project, the edit points are still there, but the image is from elsewhere (not sync at all) and you've actually lost all the time you made edits.
3- In another example: after using some cameras and doing some edits on Multi camera, when I closed and then reopened the project, all of that layer was back on one camera (camera 3).

Aah, looked a bit further and it seems to be a bug in the program! Looks like I have to start again!!!

Too many edits in multi-cam a problem?

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Hey all,
I'm absolutely pulling my hair out over some issues I'm having and hope somebody out there might have an answer. I'm creating a short interview project, including interviews of two people individually, with two separate cameras and external sound capture. My goal is to cut between their separate answers to each question. For each interview I created a multi-cam sequence within its own timeline. Then, in my master sequence, I used the source monitor to pull out the specific clips from each interview sequence which I wanted to include, and assembled them into the master timeline.
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Well, I've come up with a terrible, but comical solution for the second issue which doesn't involve reworking anything. It turns out that, upon launching premiere, I can play the master sequence with nested multi-cam sequences a grand total of ONCE with minimal delay. If I stop the play through, then it will take 3-4 minutes to get the sequence playing again. Of course, the Premiere decides to hang when I try to close it after playing this master timeline, so I'm finding that I can inch my way through this project by (1) launching premiere, (2) playing the master sequence, (3) make the edits I need, (4) forcibly crash Premiere, and (5) relaunch Premiere and repeat. It's a terrible way to work, but the project is so close to completion that I'm willing to suffer through it.
As to issue 1, I've taken each offending clip, extending the audio track one or two frames in the beginning of each clip, and then use those frames to ramp the volume up from silent to 0db. This seems to avoid the brief moment of distortion at the beginning. Notably I did try your suggestion by going back to the original, source audio, but I was still getting the same issue. My work-around is the only solution I've been able to come up with.

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Hi!
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Colin,
I did a multi camera edit of Act 1 of a taped performance and all went well. Moved on to Act 2, which ran longer and each camera needed a tape change. So I matched the clips from each camera on each video track and tried to move on to the sync & then create a multi camera sequence stage of the project. That's when I hit a road block. I could not sync the four video tracks. So I consulted Adobe's on line help and this was all I could find about my predicament:
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Second, how can I recover from this? Do I really have to delete my target sequence in PPro and start over (and by extension, delete the AE project also)? Is there no way to sever a dynamic link once it's made?
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that seems to be exclusive to the CC version. so you would either have to upgrade or find a work around. you can manually sync the footage using markers or in points, or if doing this alot and you dont want to upgrade might look at pluraleyes.
manual by in points: Setting up multi-camera Sequences in Premiere Pro CS6 | lynda.com - YouTube
by marker: Adobe Premiere Pro CC Tutorial | Performing Multi-Camera Editing - YouTube
pluraleyes: Multicam edits in Premiere Pro CS5 using PluralEyes - YouTube

Multi-camera Source sequence problems

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You can see a good tutorial on the entire process here - http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-premiere-pro-cc/multicamera-workflows-with-premiere-pro/
The help page also gives step by step - Adobe Premiere Pro Help | Multi-camera editing workflow. I was talking about step 4. Create a multi-camera target sequence.

Multi-Cam Tool only showing angles on pause...

Hello,
I know this has been discussed before, and I had posted on this too, however, I am still having problems, and had to finish my project 'manually', and could not use the multi-cam function, and am wondering if there is ANYTHING else I can do to rectify this. This is what I have done on my own:
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I tend to give my clients a rough cut with no filters applied. If they're happy with the cut, then we go through and add any necessary color correction, etc.
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As far as transitions, well of course it would only be able to show the selected angle. How would you suggest FCP creates a dissolve from one clip to four clips?

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Hello,
Please send me an email at;
[email protected]
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Launch Multi-Camera Monitor - Sound goes away

Hi,
I've been re-trying this for two days - and can not, for the live of me, figure out what is happening. I have started from clips in a new folder and re-building the project from scratch - no joy (old Navy term). The thing that is frustrating to me - is I've done this before and everything worked fine.
I realize you-all are quite precise, so here is my process:
I have a sequence where I have the clips from two cameras and they are syncronized (using Plural Eyes)
I have extracted .WAV files in Audo 1 and 2 (linked to video 1) and Audio 3 and 4 (linked to Video 2) - (I did a render and replace)
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THEN - on the Menu Bar - I click Window>>Multi-Camera Monitor - the Sound disappears.
Results:
This sound should be coming from Video 2 and it's link to Audio 3 and 4 - But no deal...... It is soundless when looking from both the Multi-Camera Monitor and the Program Monitor. If I move further in the sequence where Video 1 happenes to be playing (Audio 1 and 2) - I have sound again.
As a note: If I go back to the original synced sequence - everything seems normal - I have sound through-out the sequence.
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What happended to the audio (3 and 4) in the nested sequence?
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This morning - I took a new look at theMulit-camera Monitor - and found a new button hiding on the bottom of the screen - I needed to select the audio
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I'm working on a 2-camera edit, which I've done numerous multi-camera edits on this machine before with no problem, but now when I am playing back the footage with the multi-camera window and select the other camera, the footage in the main window (the one that shows the footage going on the timeline) jumps ahead about a minute. It doesn't matter which camera is choosen, it causes either to jump ahead about a minute in that main window making it almost impossible to edit.
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Great video showing exactly what you're experiencing. Thanks! Wow, something definitely seems severely wrong when nothing has changed on your machine except the version of PPr. Just a couple random thoughts (that probably won't make a difference):
1. Are you using Multi-cam Clips (i.e. created the way most Adobe tutorials teach you to create them), or are you using a Nested Sequence with Multi-cam Enabled (i.e. the way most on this forum would recommend)?
2. Does life get better when you exit Dropbox completely (or if you uninstall it)?
3. Do you have other items, like Dropbox, running? Close them all?
4. Does the same thing happen with different kinds of footage formats?
5. What version of Anti-virus? Try turning it completely off?
Again, you've probably considered the last two, but if not, it's the first thing I might try.
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I hope there is something helpful for you in all of that.
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