Multi-lingual Error: The translation failed because the online translation service was unavailable

Hi,
We need to implement multi-lingual functionality in SharePoint 2013 on premise server. We have implemented the functionality by referring the below URL.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/sharepoint_quick_reads/archive/2013/08/12/sharepoint-2013-variations-creating-site-and-variation-labels.aspx
But after this once we translate any page/document, we are getting below error.
Error: The
translation failed because the online translation service was unavailable. Please resubmit this file for translation. If the files fails again with this error message, contact system administrator.
Machine
We have configured the internet over SharePoint server, also referred below url, but
no success.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/weslbo/archive/2012/11/07/sharepoint-2013-machine-translations-the-translation-failed-because-the-online-translation-service-was-unavailable.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj729796(v=office.15).aspx
https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/dcd0e1d3-2b26-41fa-ad07-77fe234fbc23/machine-translation-service?forum=sharepointdevelopment
If you have faced a similar issue and has any information on how to resolve this issue or how to achieve multi-lingual functionality or configure machine translation service in SharePoint 2013,
it will be great help.
Regards,
Shailendra Gupta

Hi Shailendra
Please check this below
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/weslbo/archive/2012/11/07/sharepoint-2013-machine-translations-the-translation-failed-because-the-online-translation-service-was-unavailable.aspx
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/sharepoint/en-US/a7bf9604-d652-4566-aac5-6bcb10dd6ce5/failed-because-there-was-no-translation-available-online-translation-service?forum=sharepointgeneral
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Remote service invocation: method=RollbackGeneration() Service = { Implementation type=Microsoft.Ceres.SearchCore.ContentTargets.IndexRouter.IndexRouter Component: SP4d91e6081ac3I.0.0.IndexRouter Exposer Name: GenerationContentTarget} terminated with exception: System.Runtime.InteropServices.SEHException (0x80004005): External component has thrown an exception.
RetryableInvocation[SP4d91e6081ac3]: Exception invoking index cell I.0.0. Retrying in 2 seconds: System.Runtime.InteropServices.SEHException (0x80004005): External component has thrown an exception.
Journal[SP4d91e6081ac3]: Rolling back GID[7570] to GID[7569] prepGen=GID[7569]
The Question What is causing this? And how to prevent it? It happend twice in two weeks
nows. Out of the blue, no config change has been made, all disks have enough space.
Known Fix This resolves the problem, but doesn's address the root-cause of the problem!
Stop all crawls.
Wait a few minutes to let the crawl come to a complete stop.
Reset the index (clearing all!)
Start a full-crawl. In the meantime no search is available to the end user (boohoo!)

Hi,
I searched for the similar error log, the issue is finally solved by adding more drive space even though they though there is plenty space already.
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/d06c9b2c-0bc1-44c6-b83a-2dc0b70936c4/the-item-could-not-be-indexed-successfully-because-the-item-failed-in-the-indexing-subsystem?forum=sharepointsearch
http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/480369-the-item-could-not-be-indexed-successfully
From your decription, the issue seems to occur to your full crawl. There is one point in best practise for crawling:
Run full crawls only when it is necessary, the reasons to do a full crawl are as below:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj219577.aspx#Plan_full_crawl
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn535606.aspx
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Logging in to the account failed because an error occurred

I've been looking after Mac's in an ophthalmologist's office for about 6 years. We initially used Panther server with networked home directories. With the large images, slow computers, and slow network we moved about 4 years ago to local accounts and local home directories using a Leopard Server for file sharing and print serving. About a year ago we moved to a Mac Mini Server but kept local home directories. We would like to move back to networked home directories and implement group folders for sharing.
I have another Mac Mini Server at home and am trying to set up a test environment but am having trouble getting networked home directories to work. I'm trying to log in using my MacBook Pro. Both machines are at 10.6.8. I followed the outstanding setup instructions from
         http://www.wazmac.com/servers_network/fileservers/osxserver_setup/osxserver106_s etup.htm
but omitted the part of setting up the groups.   I just set up an account, Test1 but am unable to log in using it. I can log into the account and access the home folder through my finder though. When I try log in I get:
         You are unable to log in to the user account "test1" at this time
          logging in to the account failed because an error occurred.
I have looked for several days now and have found no answers that have resolved this.
My DNS tests fine and it appears that my password is working. I have turned off all the services except for AFP, DNS, and Open Directory. The home folder is on the second drive /Volumes/MacHD2/Homes/test1 and it is set for automount and home directories. I set each of the separately with a save between. The server appears in my /Network/Servers/ directory right down to the Homes directory.
The following is the only log file that indicates any error. This is from the most recent reboot:
Directory Services Error Log:
2011-07-09 09:19:12 PDT - T[0x00007FFF70C75CC0] - DNSServiceProcessResult returned -65563
2011-07-09 09:19:45 PDT - T[0x0000000101C8D000] - Misconfiguration detected in hash 'Global SID':
2011-07-09 09:19:45 PDT - T[0x0000000101C8D000] - Computer 'guest' (/LDAPv3/127.0.0.1) - ID -1 - UUID 3A0E5953-EC2B-4F6E-A929-3B32406A10C3 - SID S-1-5-21-3687144454-2494095375-1043814123-998
2011-07-09 09:19:45 PDT - T[0x0000000101C8D000] - Computer 'MiniServer.tolan.homeip.net$' (/Local/Default) - ID -1 - UUID 87FB76C0-A528-44FC-ADBF-2A7EC7809A9A - SID S-1-5-21-3687144454-2494095375-1043814123-998
2011-07-09 09:19:45 PDT - T[0x0000000101C8D000] - Misconfiguration detected in hash 'Global SID':
2011-07-09 09:19:45 PDT - T[0x0000000101C8D000] - Computer 'guest' (/LDAPv3/127.0.0.1) - ID -1 - UUID 3A0E5953-EC2B-4F6E-A929-3B32406A10C3 - SID S-1-5-21-3687144454-2494095375-1043814123-998
2011-07-09 09:19:45 PDT - T[0x0000000101C8D000] - Computer 'MiniServer.tolan.homeip.net$' (/Local/Default) - ID -1 - UUID 87FB76C0-A528-44FC-ADBF-2A7EC7809A9A - SID S-1-5-21-3687144454-2494095375-1043814123-998
The following are the relevant messages from the other log files that captured the login attempt:
AFP Access Log:
IP 192.168.77.20 - - [09/Jul/2011:11:25:11 -0800] "Login test1" 0 0 0
IP 192.168.77.20 - - [09/Jul/2011:11:25:11 -0800] "Logout test1" 0 0 0
DNS Log:
09-Jul-2011 09:38:09.777 received control channel command 'freeze'
09-Jul-2011 09:38:09.778 freezing all zones: success
09-Jul-2011 09:38:09.885 received control channel command 'reload'
09-Jul-2011 09:38:09.885 loading configuration from '/private/etc/named.conf'
09-Jul-2011 09:38:09.886 using default UDP/IPv4 port range: [49152, 65535]
09-Jul-2011 09:38:09.886 using default UDP/IPv6 port range: [49152, 65535]
09-Jul-2011 09:38:09.888 reloading configuration succeeded
09-Jul-2011 09:38:09.888 reloading zones succeeded
09-Jul-2011 09:38:09.889 zone 77.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN/com.apple.ServerAdmin.DNS.public: loaded serial 2011070804
09-Jul-2011 09:38:09.889 zone tolan.homeip.net/IN/com.apple.ServerAdmin.DNS.public: loaded serial 2011070900
09-Jul-2011 09:38:09.893 received control channel command 'thaw'
09-Jul-2011 09:38:09.893 thawing all zones: success
09-Jul-2011 09:38:09.893 zone 77.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN/com.apple.ServerAdmin.DNS.public: loaded serial 2011070804
09-Jul-2011 09:38:09.893 zone tolan.homeip.net/IN/com.apple.ServerAdmin.DNS.public: loaded serial 2011070900
Kerberos Server Log:
Jul 09 11:25:07 MiniServer.tolan.homeip.net krb5kdc[55](info): AS_REQ (7 etypes {18 17 16 23 1 3 2}) 192.168.77.20: NEEDED_PREAUTH: [email protected] for krbtgt/[email protected], Additional pre-authentication required
Jul 09 11:25:07 MiniServer.tolan.homeip.net krb5kdc[55](info): AS_REQ (7 etypes {18 17 16 23 1 3 2}) 192.168.77.20: NEEDED_PREAUTH: [email protected] for krbtgt/[email protected], Additional pre-authentication required
Jul 09 11:25:07 MiniServer.tolan.homeip.net krb5kdc[55](debug): handling authdata
Jul 09 11:25:07 MiniServer.tolan.homeip.net krb5kdc[55](debug): handling authdata
Jul 09 11:25:07 MiniServer.tolan.homeip.net krb5kdc[55](debug): .. .. ok
Jul 09 11:25:07 MiniServer.tolan.homeip.net krb5kdc[55](debug): .. .. ok
Jul 09 11:25:07 MiniServer.tolan.homeip.net krb5kdc[55](info): AS_REQ (7 etypes {18 17 16 23 1 3 2}) 192.168.77.20: ISSUE: authtime 1310235907, etypes {rep=18 tkt=16 ses=18}, [email protected] for krbtgt/[email protected]
Jul 09 11:25:07 MiniServer.tolan.homeip.net krb5kdc[55](info): AS_REQ (7 etypes {18 17 16 23 1 3 2}) 192.168.77.20: ISSUE: authtime 1310235907, etypes {rep=18 tkt=16 ses=18}, [email protected] for krbtgt/[email protected]
Jul 09 11:25:11 MiniServer.tolan.homeip.net krb5kdc[55](info): TGS_REQ (7 etypes {18 17 16 23 1 3 2}) 192.168.77.20: ISSUE: authtime 1310235907, etypes {rep=18 tkt=16 ses=18}, [email protected] for afpserver/[email protected]
Jul 09 11:25:11 MiniServer.tolan.homeip.net krb5kdc[55](info): TGS_REQ (7 etypes {18 17 16 23 1 3 2}) 192.168.77.20: ISSUE: authtime 1310235907, etypes {rep=18 tkt=16 ses=18}, [email protected] for afpserver/[email protected]
Password Service Server Log:
Jul 9 2011 11:25:07    RSAVALIDATE: success.
Jul 9 2011 11:25:07    AUTH2: {0x4e17e4b75f13dc1d0000000600000006, test1} DHX authentication succeeded.
Jul 9 2011 11:25:07    KERBEROS-LOGIN-CHECK: user {0x4e17e4b75f13dc1d0000000600000006, test1} is in good standing.
Jul 9 2011 11:25:07    KERBEROS-LOGIN-CHECK: user {0x4e17e4b75f13dc1d0000000600000006, test1} authentication succeeded.
Jul 9 2011 11:25:07    GETPOLICY: user {0x4e17e4b75f13dc1d0000000600000006, test1}.
Jul 9 2011 11:25:07    GETPOLICY: user {0x4e17e4b75f13dc1d0000000600000006, test1}.
I would appreciate any and all assistance with this. I've never had a problem in the past with configuring and using networked home directories. This has me stumped. This is now my 3rd day working on it. I've been through numerous discussion groups, googled endlessly, and even re-installed the server software twice to make sure I'm working with a clean current copy.
Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer....

Thanks for your comments, and particularly for confirming that the Kerberos and AFP logs indicated success.   I did have my sharing set properly as you describe however checking that I had set sharing appropriately it led me to the answer to my problem...
You were right about the location of Test1's home directory and it is on the second disk.   I have always had a level of discomfort setting up the Home URL under 'Home' when setting up a home directory. I thought I had to put the fully qualified directory name, in this case:
      afp://miniserver.tolan.homeip.net/Volumes/MacHD2/Homes
After turning sharing off and on for the Homes directory, just to ensure, I saw that WGM had inserted another, more abbreviated URL for me to select:
      afp://MiniServer.tolan.homeip.net/Homes
When I selected this URL all started working.   I guess I've been outsmarting myself over the years by overthinking what I had to do.
So, while your suggestion was correct, that wasn't my problem, but checking to ensure that I'd done it right did lead me to the solution.   Hence, a helpful answer, rather than a correct one even though you are correct.
This issue of what the URL should look like has always bothered me but now I know. I guess I've just been lucky up until now and in this business good luck doesn't teach you anything...   :-)
Cheers, and thanks for this...

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