Multi-seat Leopard to Lion upgrade... thanks a lot Apple!
So, if I understand Apple's stance that Lion will only be available through the Mac App Store, and that the Mac App Store is only available on the latest version of Snow Leopard, then my job to upgrade my company's 10 Macs has just become a nightmare!
On EACH Mac, I must:
upgrade to Snow Leopard (about 30 mins?)
download and patch to latest Snow Leopard (another 30 mins?)
download Lion (4gb... on our broadband, that's about 4 hours)
run install (guessing another 30 mins again?)
So, you're seriously telling me that I will have to spend 5.5 hours upgrading EACH Mac individually? That's 55 HOURS!
Unless it's possible to copy the Lion installer, in which case the job becomes a little less onerous... except that Apple's business licensing for the Mac Store says that you can only install on the one Mac, and not all of your Macs like a home licence... so I'm guessing that I will have to download for each Mac.
ABSOLUTE BLEEDIN’ NIGHTMARE!
THIS IS A JOKE! Come on Apple - you HAVE to release the Lion installer on DVD!
The other thing is, anybody running an organization who decides to update their operating system the day it is released should be advised of known truths of releases:
1. They almost always are not compatible with every mission critical software, unless they just happened to pick every software that has been keeping up with Apple day to day.
2. A clone backup of their system is a must prior to any update. No telling if hardware or software issues might be lurking in the depths of the system that would surface upon an update.
3. Nobody said you can't do a network install once downloaded to one system, as long as certain licensing terms have been paid for and agreed to.
Wait until the July release before jumping to conclusions.
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I have Leopard 10.5.8. How can i download and install Snow Leopard or Lion? Thanks.
Currently, I have Leopard 10.5.8. How can i download and install Snow Leopard or Lion? Thanks for your help.
You need to *call* Apple at 1-800-MY-APPLE, as Ralph already said.
But "since one week" sounds like a direct translation of French "il y a". You should call your local country's Apple suuport and ask.
Here is Amazon, from a "snow leopard buy" Google search: http://www.amazon.com/Mac-version-10-6-3-Snow-Leopard/dp/B001AMHWP8 -
I have a macbook that the O.S. is 10.5.8 and I cannot update it or buy Snow leopard or Lion upgrades..any suggestions
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A for SL retail disks.
Once SL is intalled from retail disks the combo installer should be found to update it to 10.6.8, which install App Store to download Lion.
Is your computer Intel (required for SL)? If intel is it Core2Duo (required for Lion)?
Go to Apple menu > About This Mac > Processor entry ... -
I have a mac book pro with Mac OS Leopard... I want to upgrade it to Lion... But apparently I can only do it from mac app store that is available for snow leopard. How can I upgrade from Leopard to Lion with out having mac app store??
Super confused! So I have a MacBook with Leopard and I understand I need to upgrade to Snow Leopard and THEN Lion. People have mentioned this new USB stick but that looks confusing and again looks like I can't use it to upgrade.
So...best way to upgrade. Is this really upgrade to Snow Leopard first using the discs (which are well expensive in NZ) and THEN buy Lion off the app store?
Is there really never going to be a way for Leopard users who didn't get snow leopard to upgrade in a more direct way (without creating some kind of USB boot thing that confuses me). Hey I don't mind paying more for 2 upgrades just be easier if they were done in one easy step!
Surely Apple needs to realise some of us were bumbling along on Leopard (I didn't pay attention until Lion arrived) and now need to upgrade. And my macbook pro can run Lion I've checked.
Thanks! -
Snow leopard to Lion Upgrade on a brand new Macbook Pro
My brand new macbook pro (bought september 2011) came with snow leopard installed. Am I really expected to buy a Lion upgrade for a brand new product?
Not required.
Some have upgraded and want desperately to reinstall SL. Some are happy with the move. Some are not completely happy but will live with it and adapt.
Read here for the "new features" to see if the move is worth the risk to you http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html.
Regardless, first thing you need to do is get a mac-formated drive and make a TimeMachine or CarbonCopyClone (download for free) backup. The only common and provable issue with Lion upgrade is that those who do NOT make a backup regret not havng it when/if they reinstall SL. -
Thanks a lot Apple - Try actually testing your software next time.
I upgraded to v7.0 today.
Once it started up, it said my 5G didn't have the latest software and needed to be updated. So I told it to update. It showed an update window, but after about 10 seconds, I noticed my iPod unmounted. However, the update screen said it was still updating. I let it go, to see what would happen. After 30 minutes, the same.
So I tried to shutdown iTunes. It wouldn't. I had to shut it down through Task Manager, which said it had stopped responding. I disconnected my iPod and rebooted. Once it booted back up, I connected my iPod. Now normally, this would cause iTunes to start up also. Unfortunately, that's not what happened. Instead it was recognized as a drive by windows, showing me the contents. I manually opened iTunes... but it didn't show any iPod connected.
I unplugged my iPod and plugged it back in. Still... no iPod showing in iTunes. I searched the Internet and found this page, that looked like it addressed the exact problem I was having.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93716
I followed EVERY step on that page, in an attempt to get it to work correctly. Nothing worked.
So far I've uninstalled and reinstalled iTunes 3 times. Still no resolution. It won't see my iPod unless I leave it plugged in and then reboot. However, if I eject it and then reconnect it... it won't see the iPod.
So I tried rolling back my software to an earlier version of iTunes. Won't let me do that either, as it says the library was created by a later version.
Thanks for nothing, Apple.
5G - 30GB Windows XP Pro
Windows XP ProNo, you shouldn't. But things happen. With everything. Including iPods. Like I mentioned earlier, this issue happened to me also. Its not overly complex to reformat an iPod. Also, I wouldn't be so quick to say that 7.0 caused the problem, but possibly exposed one that you already had?
How can any company test for every possibly configuration that everyone has on their machines. As far as updates go, I think Apple has done an excellent job in the past few years. Has everything been perfect? No. Should we expect them to be? Sure. But nothing ever is.
And lastly, as this is a support discussion board, what other kind of posts were you expecting to see here?
So back to you original problem. I am the second person on this topic to suggest reformatting. Did that work for you? -
Is there a multi-user sales of Lion upgrade in Appstore?
You could by a family package of 5 at a discount for past OS systems like Leopard. Is that available for Lion, from appstore or other spot?
Jim....duh... I thought they would restrict per computer, but this make me since I was a bit at the cost of all the other software upgrades on my 5 macs. Thanks!
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I currently have snow leopard and want to upgrade to lion or mountain lion. I have a macbook from 2008, it's plastic, 4 gigs of ram, dou core intel processor. If i do not meet the requirements for one or both of them please tell me. If it is possible for me to upgrade please tell me how to get my hands on the one that will work.
Run Software Update to download and install the latest updates for Snow Leopard to bring it up to 10.6.8, or download the combo update from here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1399
Check via Software Update whether further updates are required.
You should now see the App Store icon, and you now need to set up your account:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4479
To use iCloud you have to upgrade at least to Lion, but some functions are only available in Mountain Lion:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4759
You can also purchase the code to use to download Lion (Lion requires an Intel-based Mac with a Core 2 Duo, i3, i5, i7 or Xeon processor and 2GB of RAM, running the latest version of Snow Leopard), or you can purchase Mountain Lion from the App Store - if you can run that:
http://www.apple.com/osx/specs/ -
Transfer Mountain Lion upgrade, purchase to new Apple ID
I upgraded from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion on my Macbook Pro using my old Apple ID. Now I have a new Apple ID and want to transfer my purchase. Is this possible, and if so, how?
The license for any OS purchased at the app store is tied forever to the Apple ID used to purchase it - if you want to download it on another computer, you will need to use the same Apple ID you used to purchase it. That cannot be changed.
You can also purchase it again with a new Apple ID...... -
So here I thought I got a great deal on a 30G iPod from the Apple refurb store. I recieve the package, open it up, and begin to get it ready for use. I found it kinda odd that while the documentation said USB2.0 cable, all I got was a FIREWIRE cable with it. Thinking nothing of it, I plug it all into my shiny new iMac. Much to my surprise, the iPod comes to life and tells me that Firewire isn't supported, please use the 'included' USB cable.
***?! IT DIDN'T COME WITH A USB CABLE! The only cable I got was a Firewire cable!
So thank you very much Apple... Now I have to give you even more of my money (which I'm sure was the plan from the beginning) and purchase a USB2.0 cable just to use my iPod.Look at the bright side, you can still charge it with a FW cable despite the warning. I use a split cable with USB and FW and when I am done syncing I leave it connected to charge. Or if I don't want to go through the syncing as well. Keep it and pay like $5 for a USB one at Best Buy.
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Mountain Lion Upgrade crashes my macbook
I upgrade my 2008 macbook. periodically my computer automatically reboots.
What is causing the problem? Is there anything I can do about it?
I ran the utility disk, but it did not help.
This is information my macbook is displaying:
Interval Since Last Panic Report: 104068 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 4
Anonymous UUID: B2C104D0-AECA-4FB2-A245-9B132D41281A
Sun Sep 2 10:37:46 2012
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff80126b7b95): Kernel trap at 0xffffff8012eea380, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x0000000080010033, CR2: 0xffffff8012eea380, CR3: 0x000000002fc2e000, CR4: 0x0000000000000660
RAX: 0xffffff801e530df0, RBX: 0x0000000000000002, RCX: 0xffffff80126a59c0, RDX: 0x000000000000000c
RSP: 0xffffff808b1b3ed8, RBP: 0xffffff808b1b3f00, RSI: 0x00000000b10c0e2c, RDI: 0xffffff801e53d550
R8: 0x0000000000000000, R9: 0x0000000000000000, R10: 0x0000000000000617, R11: 0x0000000000000246
R12: 0xffffff8012634330, R13: 0x0000000000000026, R14: 0xffffff801e530df0, R15: 0x0000000000000026
RFL: 0x0000000000010282, RIP: 0xffffff8012eea380, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010
Fault CR2: 0xffffff8012eea380, Error code: 0x0000000000000010, Fault CPU: 0x0
Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff808b1b3b70 : 0xffffff801261d5f6
0xffffff808b1b3be0 : 0xffffff80126b7b95
0xffffff808b1b3db0 : 0xffffff80126ce4ad
0xffffff808b1b3dd0 : 0xffffff8012eea380
0xffffff808b1b3f00 : 0xffffff80126a5938
0xffffff808b1b3fb0 : 0xffffff80126ceabe
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: PluginProcess
Mac OS version:
12B19
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 12.1.0: Tue Aug 14 13:29:55 PDT 2012; root:xnu-2050.9.2~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 3005059E-270B-3B9F-940D-7A66C05DDC9D
Kernel slide: 0x0000000012400000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff8012600000
System model name: MacBook5,1 (Mac-F42D89C8)
System uptime in nanoseconds: 2614952149947
last loaded kext at 38447122584: com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.60 (addr 0xffffff7f93ffa000, size 32768)
last unloaded kext at 246527008769: com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyEventDriver 235.4 (addr 0xffffff7f942b8000, size 8192)
loaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.60
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9.5d0
com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.12.69
com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 2.3.0f2
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 122
com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet 1.0.0d1
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 4.0.9f8
com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0
com.apple.driver.ApplePolicyControl 3.2.6
com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 1.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 2.3.0f2
com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.6.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.5.10
com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 3.0.2d6
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 3.0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMCLMU 2.0.2d0
com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetoothHCIControllerUSBTransport 4.0.9f8
com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 170.2.3
com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl 1.0.33
com.apple.GeForce 8.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 235.4
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless 1.0.0d1
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1
com.apple.BootCache 34
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 235.4
com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 320.15
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUsezClient 3.5.1
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 404
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 2.2.1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 5.1.6
com.apple.nvenet 2.0.19
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 5.1.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI 5.1.5
com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4331 601.15.21
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 2.4.0
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.6.1
com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 161.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.5
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.7
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.9
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient 196.0.0
com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 4.0.39
com.apple.security.quarantine 2
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 196.0.0
com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 2.3.0f2
com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.8.9fc9
com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 2.3.0f2
com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 2.3.0f2
com.apple.iokit.IOSurface 86.0.2
com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 10.0.6
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 4.0.9f8
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginLegacy 1.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.10d0
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 5.2.0d16
com.apple.kext.triggers 1.0
com.apple.iokit.AppleBluetoothHCIControllerUSBTransport 4.0.9f8
com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 3.1.3d11
com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl 3.2.6
com.apple.driver.AppleBacklightExpert 1.0.4
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.10d0
com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal 8.0.0
com.apple.NVDAResman 8.0.0
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 2.3.4
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 2.3.4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMultitouch 235.7
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 5.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 5.1.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 5.0.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 3.5.1
com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.7
com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.7.1
com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.7.1
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 3.5.1
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com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 5.1.6
com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 500.15
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 3.0
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com.apple.iokit.IOH
Model: MacBook5,1, BootROM MB51.007D.B03, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GHz, 4 GB, SMC 1.32f8
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, PCI, 256 MB
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 2 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x8319, 0x4D4943563738504941202020202020202020
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM1, 2 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x8319, 0x4D4943563738504941202020202020202020
AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x8D), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.106.98.81.21)
Bluetooth: Version 4.0.9f8 10405, 2 service, 11 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: Parallels Shared Networking Adapter, Ethernet, en2
Network Service: Parallels Host-Only Networking Adapter, Ethernet, en3
Serial ATA Device: Hitachi HTS543216L9SA02, 160.04 GB
Serial ATA Device: HL-DT-ST DVDRW GS21N
USB Device: Built-in iSight, apple_vendor_id, 0x8507, 0x24400000 / 2
USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0x06100000 / 2
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, apple_vendor_id, 0x8213, 0x06110000 / 3
USB Device: IR Receiver, apple_vendor_id, 0x8242, 0x04500000 / 3
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, apple_vendor_id, 0x0236, 0x04600000 / 2Well yes, may be you are right, I guess this is a serious problem. I am just afraid that taking it to the service will cost much more then the macbook is worth, and I guess that Apple does not care that it happend when I made the upgrade to mountain lion, at leased I could claim the money back for the mountain lion purchase
Thanks a lot for you help. -
How do you tell if your running leopard or lion?
How can you tell if your running snow Leopard or Lion?
go to the "apple logo" at the top left
click on "about this mac"
if it says "10.6.8" your running snow leopard
if it says "10.7" your running LION -
Apple makes you WORK HARD for your Mountain Lion upgrade
Mountain Lion was launched on 25th July. I bought a new Macbook Air on 11th July, with the promised upgrade. I did not realise that Apple was going to make me work so hard to get the upgrade, which I still don't have up till now. Lesson learnt - next time, I should wait till the launch of a new OS to get the new OS rather than wait for an upgrade.
The waiting time would mean I'll get a new computer with the OS installed at the same time as I would have if I had ordered it on 25th July, without the work.
My note to Apple feedback below posted for everyone's benefit, seeing that Apple states they don't respond to the feedback they receive.
---- Note to Apple feedback ---
I had to use my Apple ID to create an account and order a new MacBook Air, which I did on 11th July. I received the item and waited for the Mountain Lion upgrade which is promised as free.
I did not realise that Apple was going to make me work to get the upgrade. It would have been easier to just wait for the upgrade before buying your product.
Why is it necessary to go through such a convulated application process to get the mountain lion upgrade?
Why is Apple asking for information such as what I ordered (which qualifies for the upgrade), if it is in my Apple ID account and you already knew that 10.8 would be available on 25th July?
Why do I need to re-submit my hardcopy order chit (which by the way, was disposed upon receipt of the Macbook)and other documentation to prove my purchase?
This has inconveinced me greatly as I had to find a scanner to scan the document for submission.
This seems a rather antiquated and bureaucractic process for a company which is supposed to be on the technological edge, and which is delivering the OS to me using MY DATA PLAN and not providing me any hardcopies to justify the additional work required on my part.
So far, I have wasted 1 hour to make the claim ... and now I am told I have to wait at least 72hours to get the key, at which point it will probably take me another few hours to install the OS.
Which also means that I will also be receiving the new OSX at least 5 days after its launch - as late as it would have been if I had just waited till 25th July to order the mac.
Kindly review your processes.I decided to make a second application last night with the invoice printed from the online store just in-case the first set was rejected.
Well, this morning - both claims came back rejected. The first one on the basis the scan was not clear (huh ?) ... and the second because my mid-2012 (july) Macbook 13" air does not qualify for the upgrade. huh ??
I called the help line and they are as puzzled ... so they said they will escalate it. From what they can see in the system, it should have gone through. Given its now the weekend, it will be another 3 days of delay at the least.
It's almost as if they have created mounds of bureaucracy for nothing, to make their customers jump through hoops.
I really should have stuck to ordering it with 10.8 installed... it was just waiting another week. Big regret.
Now I am stuck in an endless array of form submissions, online forms, talking to Apple support ... waiting ... waiting ... waiting. .. -
Thanks a LOT! "Upgrade" should be punctuated with a "?" re Mail!
Why did Apple decide NOT to let us know about their decision to no longer support RSS in Mail! Do they have folks who just sit and wait for the end users to ***** and complain, and they "magically" fix the problem as if it was their idea all along? Sounds like they need to get into government service...
Thanks a LOT Apple...anatolik wrote:
simendsjo wrote:
karol wrote:Are you building in clean chroot?
No. What are you thinking of?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/De … ean_Chroot
This helper might be useful as well
https://github.com/graysky2/clean-chroot-manager
I see. The infrastructure and documentation is in place, but not all maintainers are using best practices.
Guess this is a "solved" issue then. -
How do I upgrade my Mac Mini running Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion? Thanks
I have a Mac Mini running Snow leapard. I believe i can update it to Mountain Lion but have read I have to first update it to Lion. This is where Im struggling. How do I get a copy of Lion as I cant download it as there is not an App Store on Snow Leapard.
Any help would be great!Upgrading to Snow Leopard, Lion, or Mountain Lion
You can upgrade to Mountain Lion from Lion or directly from Snow Leopard. Mountain Lion can be downloaded from the Mac App Store for $19.99. To access the App Store you must have Snow Leopard 10.6.6 or later installed.
You can purchase Snow Leopard by contacting Customer Service: Contacting Apple for support and service. The price is $19.99 plus tax. You will receive physical media - DVD - by mail.
Third-party sources for Snow Leopard are:
Snow Leopard from Amazon.com
Snow Leopard from eBay
After you install Snow Leopard you will have to download and install the Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1 to update Snow Leopard to 10.6.8 and give you access to the App Store.
You can purchase Lion by contacting Customer Service: Contacting Apple for support and service. The cost is $19.99 (as it was before) plus tax. It's a download.
Be sure your computer meets the minimum requirements:
Apple - OS X Mountain Lion - Read the technical specifications.
Macs that can be upgraded to OS X Mountain Lion
1. iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
2. MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
3. MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
4. MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
5. Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
6. Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
7. Xserve (Early 2009)
Are my applications compatible?
See App Compatibility Table - RoaringApps - App compatibility and feature support for OS X & iOS.
Am I eligible for the free upgrade?
See Apple - Free OS X Mountain Lion upgrade Program.
For a complete How-To introduction from Apple see Apple - Upgrade your Mac to OS X Mountain Lion.
Model Eligibility for Snow Leopard and Lion.
Snow Leopard General requirements
1. Mac computer with an Intel processor
2. 1GB of memory
3. 5GB of available disk space
4. DVD drive for installation
5. Some features require a compatible Internet service provider; fees may apply.
6. Some features require Apple’s MobileMe service; fees and terms apply.
Lion System Requirements
1. Mac computer with an Intel Core 2 Duo, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or Xeon processor
2. 2GB of memory
3. OS X v10.6.6 or later (v10.6.8 recommended)
4. 7GB of available space
5. Some features require an Apple ID; terms apply.
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