MultiCamera Editing-Color Correction

I have done a shoot with two cameras. Loaded the two tapes into FCP and ready for MultiCamera editing. What if I would like to color correct the two clips to have them look similar, before I do the MultiCam edit. After the edit the clips are individual clips and need to be color corrected separately. I know you can copy CC to other clips, but it would be nice to CC the entire clip once, before doing the MultiCam process.
Thanks,
-carmen

Or, bring the clips into Color, do the grade, bake in the changes and send it back to FCP before multicliping the project.
If the original material is HDV, color will spit out ProRes files suitable for elegant editing.
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Is there a way that I can set the color correction for one camera, and it applies to all of the cuts. When I drag the filter onto the clip it asks to apply it to the source angle, or to the multiclip. I have tried both, and it will only apply to that one clip and not all of the other clips that are from that camera. Will I have to apply to each individual clip, or is there and easier way?

hi Rod
color correction workflow for Multiclip projects is no different than for any other FCP project
that is, correction is applied on a clip by clip basis
you can only apply a universal correction to a clip (or angle) by applying the correction to the source before you start editing with it ... thereafter, every instance of that clip will have the filter applied
of course, you can apply the color correction filter to an angle of your multiclip and every instance of that angle that you cut in will have the filter applied
(i did notice before, that even though the clip may be color corrected, the multiclip display only shows the unfiltered clip, and the filtered clip only displays correctly once it is cut into the timeline)
sure, it might be nice if there was an option somewhere to force a filter applied to a master clip (or angle) to be applied to every other instance of that clip ... but there isn't!
good luck
Andy
Message was edited by: Andy Mees

Color correction problem between original sequence and multicam sequence... Please help

I used three camcorders to record a youth dance recital. I created an orginal sequence for the three camcorders and another sequence using the multicam feature to edit the dances. After I finished editing, I went back to the original sequence to make some color correction and brightness adjustments using the Fast Color Correction controls. After that, I sent everything to Encore to create a DVD. When I watched the DVD, I noticed some of my color correction settings were still off, so I went back to the orginal sequence to make some changes. Unfortunately, the multicam sequence would not read the new settings. After a few unsuccessful attempts to get the clip from the multicam sequence to read the clip from the original sequence, I decided to start over by clearing the Fast Color Correction controls from the clip. The multicam sequence then adjusted back matching the original sequence. However, when I started a new Fast Color Correction control in the original sequence, the multicam sequence would not take the new settings. How to I get the mulitcam sequence to read the orginal sequence?

Thank Jim for replying:
I am stumped on this one. I did a few radical tweeks and it did not take. For example, I made one clip in the original sequence go completely dark. However, the clip in the mulicam sequence did not change.
I even deleted the render files and the work area render files and started over with making changes. Nothing. Any change I make on the original sequence will no longer adjust in the multicam sequence.
Any last words of advice before I delete the entire multicam sequence and start over? Thanks.

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Hi
What is the best workflow to do a music video shot with 7 cameras (each with 4 takes) on a green screen which would also include green screen stills.
All shot with Consumer Grade cameras at 1920/1080 at the highest resolution (I think 30 fps)
The way I am going about is not efficient.
My tasks are:
Key each 20 minute clip (to get about 2 usable minutes)
Rotate my DSLR video (shot in landscape so I could take stills as well)
Color correct all clips
Create a new cleaned up movie for each clip including: Proper format. Keyed with new background, Color Corrected, Re-encoded as a new movie, Re-imported as 7 new movies, begin to edit.
I was watching some movies about pasting attributes which look helpful and also about nesting sequences which looks like it could save time.
What is the best workflow steps to do all this? Am I going about it the right way by creating new movie clips which are keyed with a new background, color corrected, and reencoded including all the garbage footage? Then create a new multicam project to edit the cleaned up footage?
HELP!

Temporary solution for this was "export xml" after all. I had to disable all graphics and textlayers and delete colorcorrections, and flatten multicam, so i had to redo all grading ja graphics stuff in older premiere after importin FCP xml. But got the work done in time. Won't use cc 2014 in near future unless someone figures out what is wrong with green frames. (well actually now im exporting from older AME, will she if the green frames pops out there too, wouldn't be too much surprised....)

Color correction slows down editing

In CS 5.5 I adjusted the curves for color correction for the first time and then renedered the 12min video for 1hour 20min. I now see a couple of minor clip edits I want to make. However, Premiere is acting very slow and choppy. Is the color correcting I did slowing the edit process down?

Truthfully, what I would recommend is to turn off all CC,
edit, nail your timings... then color correct.
I always have considered and treated CC as a 'final touch'
that can't really be done full justice until the cut itself is solid.
But...
If you have clips that really need to be CC'ed as you are editing,
you should Preview Render those clips for smooth playback
in the Timeline as you continue to edit.
Also:
Red, yellow, and green render bars and what they mean
http://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2011/02/red-yellow-and-green-render-bars.html

Do all editing before any color correction?

I have just gotten final cut pro x.
I have some experience (very limited a couple of years back, with a Sony Home Movie Studio Platinum).
I am shooting my own music video.
Really enjoying using FCPX atm. Niggles aside (the lack of a manual save feature)
Just curious about workflow/resources.
Should I do all my editing, prior to color correction from a resources standpoint.
Does it make it slower, rendering say a zoom in the transform function with color correction applied, than without?
Eg, I have a clip, I put a keyframe and start and end of the clip. Then I scale the clip to 105% on the end of clip keyframe
to simulate a zoom in.
Should I be doing all that kind of editing, then applying any color correction or video type effects?
cheers
Wiz

Should I do all my editing, prior to color correction from a resources standpoint.
That's the SOP for working with professional video. You organize your media, you edit your media, you mix your audio, you add your transitions and titles, add effects and motion, color correct your video.

Color Correcting an Already-Edited Multiclip

So, I'm not that bright. I edited a 2 hour multiclip only to realize at the end that I wanted to do some color correcting on one of the angles to match the other two. Is there a way for me to color correct an entire angle all at once without having to re-edit the multiclip or copy and paste the filter onto each clip in the multiclip? Thanks.

Oh yeah ! paste attributes etc etc, it's brilliant, digital editing isn't it!
I was not quite certain you wanted the same cc for the whole 2 hour clip!
Haven't you got a lot of coninuity light problems ?
Pity I was hoping to find out if the reconnection worked. It should do if you had time code and the other meta data is the same, but maybe the cc instructions would interfere!
Best wishes
john

Color correcting multi edit clips

I need some help. I would like to do the color correcting on 3 clips that will be used in a multi edit. The way I have been color correcting the footage is to just drag the whole clip on the timeline and do the color correcting before I do any editing and cutting of the clip. Is there a way I can do the same thing with multi cam clips? Once they are on the timeline, the corrections are made on the timeline, but the original clips don't change?
Bruce Cleveland

I think Jerry is suggesting you do the following:
-Duplicate your clip in the browser (option-d)
-Dbl-click the new clip (will load it in viewer)
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-lather/rinse/repeat for all clips to be used in multiclip
-create your multi-clip and edit away
Can I also do this with clips on the timeline
There are procedures for this within a multiclip environment, but I'm not remembering them well enough and no longer have access to a multiclip system for review and assistance. Check your manual..I remember this part frankly being a little convoluted, so a search of this forum or the other previously posted links should help.
K

Color correction in multicam source sequence

Hi everybody, this is really making me crazy.
I've created a multicam source sequence from three clips in the bin (3 camera angles).
I imported the newly created multicam source sequence in a new sequence and I began cutting it.
It's a 40 minutes theatre piece.
When I was at 20 minutes I realized that one camera has a slightly off white balance.
How do I make the color correction to only one camera angle in a multicam source sequence ?
If I open the multicam source sequence in the Source Monitor I can't drag any effect.
Thanks for your help.
JC

KGCW,
you da man!
That's what I nedded to know...
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5930K vs 5960X for AVCHD editing and color correction?

***I have also posted this in Hardware Forum because I'm not certain which forum will be the best place to ask. Mods, I apologize if this is a no-no and of course you're welcome to remove the one you deem inappropriately placed. Thanks**
Hi guys, getting ready to have a new custom system built (probably iBuyPower, not sure yet). I would love your input on choosing the ideal processor. I have read benchmarks and forums on both the Intel 5960X and the 5930K. Most benchmarks are only concerned about encoding times, not the actual editing and color correction processes. I realize that encoding (exporting) would be generally faster on the 8-core 5960 compared to the 6-core 5930. HOWEVER, all my source material is AVCHD and for that, higher clock speed does make a big difference during the actual editing. So let's forget about encoding/exporting right now and ONLY think about the actual editing. Let's also assume I will not overclock, or if I do then never more than 20%.* I 'm not a gamer and this workstation is ONLY for editing. I use Premiere Pro CC 2014.x and always keep it up to the latest version.
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Actually the 5960X will clock the turbo speed for all cores if you set it that way which is one of the things we do with our systems. All Intel chips that are not locked can clock to their turbo rating for all cores if set that way. Even without setting all cores to the peak turbo ratio they will turbo to a clock speed higher than base when all cores are active. It's just not the peak turbo ratio. That has to be manually set. Turbo occurs anytime the system load reaches beyond a low level regardless of what your doing. The system boards and bios effect that. You can also disable a setting in the bios and the system will always stay at it's peak clock ratio. The 5960X clocked at 3.9 will easily outperform the 5930K with all codecs due to the cores and cache.
We can configure the systems with any hardware available in the market. However we cant include all those items on the website right now without making it far harder for people to configure systems. The hardware options we list are there because they are tested to work with the video and audio hardware/software and the reliability. We also support the systems as a solution for the life of the system. We have price the systems for that support which is part of the price difference. The options you are looking at wont have near the same support or expertise with the hardware and software together hence why your asking the questions here.
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CS5.5 crashes when I change work space from editing to color correction

When I change my work space from editing to color correction CS5.5 crashes.
Can get it to change from editing to audio work space without crashing, but when I want to change back from audio to editing it crashes then too.
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Hi Y'all,
I've just completed my mulit cam edit from a 2 cam shoot. I now want to drop a color corrector filter
on just camera 1. Is there a way to drop the filter onto one clip and have it apply to the rest of the clips
or do I have to highlight each clip from camera 1 and then paste attributes?
THANKS!

The only way I could think of would be to duplicate the full clip on the finder level, color correct the entire clip and export it with current settings and then reconnect all the clips from that reel to the exported qt. Multiclips can get a little quirky so I'd probably collapse all my multiclipls first. If you moved your original clip at the finder level (with fcp closed) and replace it in it's original location with the new file and rename the new file to match the old name exactly, fcp should reconnect automatically.
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