Multilevel List Style and Numbering

I have searched the forum without success regarding a RH8 problem. Can someone help? My problem may be user error, but I suspect it is a bug based on the few posts I found regarding multilevel list numbering.
I created a multilevel list style. I configured the alignment of the text lines as desired. I used the style. All was working well. Then for no apparent reason, the alignment of the lines changed. The second line of text in a numbered line does not align correctly, as shown in the file attached to this post. I can resolve the problem but only temporarily by reinstalling RH8.
Alas, I was excited about the new multilevel list functionality, but I have found it to be very unstable.

Thanks to Rick, my problem is solved!
Rick looked at my style sheet and used it to make a small chm file and it displayed perfectly. He told me that he suspected either the browser settings or perhaps the display settings.
After comparing all IE settings to no avail, I turned to the Display Settings for Windows 7.
In Display Settings, I had the text setting set on medium (125%), so I changed it back to the default, which is smaller 100%), logged off and then back on and BINGO!!
That was it!
I thought I had a problem with RoboHelp and it turned out to be the display setting for the OS! Urghhhhh!!!
Hope this helps other folks, who might be using the same setting and think that they're having a problem with their chm.....
Thanks again, Rick!
Best regards,
Deb

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Thank you very much for your reply amerilinguistics.
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* http://www.grainge.org/pages/authoring/rh8/rh8_lists.htm
* http://www.wvanweelden.eu/robohelp/lists
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