Multiple backups help

Rescue and Recovery 4.50.0025.00, Widows 7Pro, Thinkpad W530.
I acquired this system in May 2014. It appears I have been backing up to two locations, my local C: and my USB HDD. I have been reading a number of posts* that likely relate. My question is what backups can I delete? In the basic version, it looks like I can delete any or all. In the advanced version I can only delete the USB versions. I have the scheduled backups set to the USB drive, but the incrementals and one original are on the C: drive. I would like these to all be on the USB drive. How do I make it do that? The Task Scheduler, mentioned in the first link, is set to L instead of U for the location, despite being set to the USB in the RandR program. Can someone help me sort this?
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkVantage-Technologies/Rescue-and-Recovery-4-5-Incremental-backup-rev...
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkVantage-Technologies/How-to-Remove-Backup-files-in-Rescue-amp-Recov...
Basic RandR
From the Advanced RandR - menu item Backup / View all backups
From the Advanced RandR - menu item Advanced / deleta backups

I will give you some RNR tips. Most of these tips are covered in many, many posts I have replied to about RNR.
Since you took a lot of time constructing your post, I will take my time to give up a GREAT response.   You found 2 posts I created or responded to. This is for you and all other forum users. One day I will figure out how to Teal highlight a screen capture.
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These tips are for Rescue and Recovery, NOT the one key recovery product that Lenovo also ships
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You state: I am not sure how this happened - "Your target backup location is set to USB..." scheduled backup location is Local.>>> This a bug in your RNR release. Anytime you change backup location to Second or USB, the task scheduler entry would always set location to Local. Until you did a VIEW Backups, you would not catch this bug.
Yes taking a manual backup (to second/USB) would work, then next scheduled backup would go to LOCAL.
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkVantage-Technologies/Rescue-and-Recovery-4-5-Incremental-backup-rev...
It took Lenovo from November 2011 until June 2012 to respond to the bug I identified day one of rnr 4.50, the version you have installed.
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The simplied GUI backs up with different logic then the advanced menu. I never use the simplied menu. As you have seen with the delete panels. Also, RNR acts different if multiple partitions on Second/USB. Simplied panel chooses a different parition then the Advanced GUI.
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RNR uninstall will delete \rrbackups folder on the C drive (and any backup sets inside).
After a RNR install, during the 1st run, the \RRbackups folder is created on the C drive. It will say take backup now? If your reply YES, it will take a FULL BASE backup to local (\rrbackups on C drive), since parms have not been changed.
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During any FULL BASE backup, disconnect from the Internet and disable your anti-virus product. Run times will be cut in half. This assumes you are happy that no viruses are on your system.
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New backup location (second or USB):
(1) It will populate the USB with standalone RNR, this will take several minutes.
(2) It will create \rrbackups folder (now you have 2; one on C; one on USB).
(3)It will take a FULL BASE backup. Some Index tables are stored in BOTH \rrbackups  (same table).
(4) Uninstall of RNR will leave USB \rrbackups file intact. If reinstalling same Version, all ok. If installing a NEW version,rename \RRbackups on USB to a differnt name. (no mix and match). The bootable files will self update. The first backup will be FULL Base backup.
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Warning:
A USB-HDD vs a USB pendrive/stick/flashdrive. USB flash drives have a TOTAL similar/different set of issues with RNR. My comments are towards USB-HDD.
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Backup to CD/DVD
(1) This will be a FULL base backup of your current system. \rrbackups folder NOT used.
(2) Disc 1 should be a CD. It can be a DVD. This is standalone RNR. When you run Create Rescue Media, it is creating this same CD.   This will be labeled BOOT.
(3) Subsequent DVDs are loaded with backup data. These you label 1C, 2C, 3C.   C=c drive.
You might see another set, backing up the service partition.
The last DVD used is called FINAL. It actually contains a dump of the index tables.
To do a restore from CD/DVD set
(1)Boot standalone RNR (disc 1). It will ask for FINAL dvd to load the index tables.
(2) Then will ask for 1C, 2C .... etc data files
(3) Upon completion, it will reboot to the C drive and boot up!
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How many places can I find standalone RNR?
First and foremost, the standalone RNR MUST match the version that took the backup!!!!!!!!!!!
Anytime you install a newer RNR version be aware of which areas below got updated to NEW RNR.
(1) preloaded systems. standalone RNR is stored in the recovery partition/service partition/Q drive.
(2) For a system without a LENOVO recovery partition, the standalone software is installed on the C drive.
.... (1) or (2) boot up entries are changed to support PF11.
... RNR does not like Ubuntu or any other similar software installed. BCD, boot up confusion..
(3) If you backup to SECOND/USB, the boot software will be added or will self update during next backup.
(4) If you run Create Rescue media, the target device will contain Current RNR standalone.
This device could be a CD, Second HDD or USB-hdd.
(5) If you take a backup to CD/DVD set, the 1st CD/DVD is the standalone bootable.
Thus:
(1) If you use the dvd set for a restore, boot using the 1st cd/dvd. You could boot via pf11 to bring up standlone RNR. This will be the version on the C drive or in the recovery partition. It may or may not match the version that took the backup.   OOPS! is not a fun word when your restore wont work.
(2) If you create cd/dvd sets every 6 months, label CD1 with the RNR version installed at that time. Thus if your C drive has a newer RNR installed, you can still use your old DVD backup set from the past.
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MAX backup incremental? What to set it too?
(1) The quick answer is 32. NEVER 3. The current version defaults to 16.
(2) The takes forever MERGE process. I will use your USB drive.
Base backup=30 GB incremental 1 is 9 GB.
IF max=3 hits, it will COPY the 30GB to a workarea blending in the 9 GB
It will then crunch on the \rrbackups folder updating tables.
It will FINALLY take your backup.
Newer RNR, I think, merges 1+2, base (0) not included.
(3)All my merges for years will pop up with a NOT ENOUGH SPACE on HDD for a merge, This is a bug.
It will fail over and over. Workaround: increase max incrementals number.
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How should I delete older backups?
(1) the simple answer, NEVER delete a backup.
(2) If you delete a backup, start with the most RECENT incremental backup. NOT one in the middle of the pile.
Select it. It will take about 5 minutes to delete (not 10 seconds).
You can also take the top 10 MOST RECENT backups. It will take 50 minutes run time.
This does not use the merge function.
(3) It you delete in the middle of the pile.
It will do a MERGE!!!!! and run forever!!!!!! It must go through ALL the backup tables and make adjustments as to where all the files are now located.
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\RRbackups is a hidden folder. If you want to peak inside you will have to change windows security(covered in another post).
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My yearly all in one tips. They are covered in many posts out here.
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Back to original post:
(1) RNR does not support backup to multiple USB( IT might). Newer versions added Device INFO to the tables
(2) better use of USB
usb 1 :with rnr on it.
usb 2: WINDOWS backup. also create a windows repair disc on CD/USB.
(3)windows 8 does not support RNR. Time to use windows backup. IT IS EXTREMELY fast. You could also take windows backups to both of your USB.
(4) Use other software to backup your personal files daily /weekly/monthly. NEVER rely on RNR to backup personal files. You need dual backups of data; Triple sets are best. OPPS! cd has a scratch on it.
(5) When my max incrementals approachs 32, I just delete the LATEST 16 backups, and wait 80 minutes for completion. What happens when 32 hits? It just merges away every backup run. I did test this. It actually creates 33. Bug?
(6) I have a 1 TB USB-HDD. Invest $60 or so (on sale), and get a large USB-HDD. Less headaches!!
Standalone RNR would not boot on the USB-HDD.   I copied loved data from the USB to my C drive. I did NOT copy the \rrbackups folder. I uninstalled RNR. I had to Format the USB using diskpart, SET THE PARTITION active. (This is covered in another Lenovo post). Reinstalled RNR. Backup to USB. It will NOW boot to standalone rnr.
This applies to Create Factory recovery media and rescue media.
http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/ht002724
Your system might have a updated version.
(7)If your system is stable:
a. uninstall RNR. The C drive backups will disappear. (you could try deleting the top 10 backups before the uninstall t to see how it works).
b.Install latest RNR.
c. Take bi-yearly backup to Cd/DVD set
d. Figure out your USB device. If loved data, copy to C drive
e. Fomat the USB making sure partition is set to active. (another post)
f. Set max incrementals to 32. Change location to USB.
g. As time permits, add windows backups to the same USB.
h. You MUST test your disaster recovery plan. MUST MUST. Dont wait for HDD is smoked day.
..... back up to USB using RNR. backup to USB Take windows backup.
... back up ALL personal data to DVD or somewhere else besides the HDD.
...do not do this on a rainy day. Power outages dont help. Allow 5 hours for the test.
add a junk file to the C drive. Junk.txt. It should not be there after a restore.
....here we go. Restore your HDD using standalone RNR and your USB.
>>>> This is just my ideas for what you can do. Review the steps and find what fits for you.
>>>> The downside you will not have any backups from the past to use in case of software failure next week.
>>>>> except for the DVD set.
>>>> Just this weeks backup.

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I have a feeling this has been up here a lot. I updated ios 6 to my phone with no problems but I also back my phone up. I decided to help the wife out and update hers and something went wrong data lost. All contacts, photos, etc without backup, help.

I have a feeling this has been up here a lot. I updated ios 6 to my phone (4S) with no problems but I also back my phone up. I decided to help the wife out and update hers and something went wrong data lost. All contacts, photos, etc without backup, help.

if you have no back up in icloud or itunes the best you can do is sync with your computer and get back what you can from there

How to verify iTunes is overwriting or making multiple backups

I have an iPad2 with iTunes 10.7.0.21 in Win7 x64 and wanted to determine whether iTunes is simply overwriting the previous backup with the current one or whether in fact it is keeping multiple backups so that I can restore the iPad if need be to the state in which it was say 4 backups ago.
If I go to Edit | Prefeences| Devices it shows only the one backup for the iPad in the list.

Create a smart playlist to include everything you've added since whenever you last backed up.
File>New smart playlist
Match the following rule
Date Added is after "whatever date you last backed up"
Make since?

Delete multiple backups in time machine?

Is there a way to delete multiple backups in TIme Machine and not have to delete old files one by one by slow one by one?

pcp0827 wrote:
Is there a way to delete multiple backups in TIme Machine and not have to delete old files one by one by slow one by one?
Yes, sort of. You can delete indiividual backups, or all backups of selected items,via Time Machine. See #12 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions. You can only select one backup at a time, but they're deleted in a separate process, so you can select another before the first one completes. When you exit from Time Machine, you may see one or more progress bars for the individual deletions. (As noted there, never delete anything from your backups via the Finder.)
But you really shouldn't have to do that. Time Machine will delete your oldest backups automatically, when it needs room for new ones.

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