Multiple film rolls in source library

Belated thanks to those who helped me create new film rolls (in August!) Your advice was accurate, but my source library shows no film rolls except 'last roll'(although there are many rolls shown on the hard disk). When I create a new selection of photos in a new film roll it simply makes that selection 'last roll' and I can't rename it.

Yes, Film Rolls are very flexible. You can drag selected photo(s) into another roll. Don't release the mouse until the roll header is highlighted, and then the photos will drop into that roll. Command-click to add photos to your selection; that's the easiest way to select photos from different rolls at once. When they are selected, drag any one of them to the header of the roll to which you want them added. Or make your selection and do File > Create Film Roll to bring them into a new roll.
Film Rolls only list chronologically, in ascending or descending order. So if you'd like to tweak the order of your rolls a bit, you can edit the film roll date. It's independent from the dates of the photos, so it doesn't hurt anything to change it.
Have fun.

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Thanks TD for your reply. I did drag the slider on lower right corner to the left & yes all my pics are in view & I CAN SCROLL TO SEE ALL BUT...... the PIC ICONS ARE NOT yet listed in individual film rolls with the film roll name. I DID GO TO VIEW/SORT BY FILM ROLL (WHICH WAS ALREADY CHECKED) & STILL NO CHANGE. ANY OTHER IDEAS?
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i was busy renaming film rolls in the library when for some unexplained reason, the film rolls disappeared & only one enlarged picture is in view for each film roll. I cannot see the thumbnail pics in each film roll. How do i restore how the library shows film rolls? i tried going to View/sortby/film rolls. Nothing changes. Please help
thanks TD for reply: the slider on lower right did help me see all my pictures BUT still cannot view list of individual film rolls with titles. any other ideas? Was in process of backing up film rolls on CD when the library changed: eliminating film roll view.
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hello -
this morning I opened iPhoto6 and to my surprise there were only photos--rows and rows of photos--rather than my film roll icons and my text that encapsulated the film rolls. My library is large due to work and family history images -- 19,430 photos to date. Those film roll icons and what I write for each film roll is vital to how I organize my images.
I remember this happening years ago (when the machine was under warranty!) and I called AppleCare. I dimly remember something about a bad plist. The guy had me throw something away and reboot--it was pretty easy if only I could remember what he told me.
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I understand how to change the title and date of a Film Roll, but I would like to re-number the Film Rolls in my library to have them in the same order as their dates. Does anyone know how to do that?
(Reason for me to change the Film Roll numbers: In smart albums, if "View>Film Rolls" is clicked on, the Film Rolls are sorted by roll number, not by the date assigned to the roll. I know that I could sort photos by dates, but then the Film Rolls are not displayed).
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Yes, that's what I did and it did not solve the problem. It seems to be a bug.
Again, here is what I did, step-by-step:
1. Added 1 picture, created 1 Roll "Roll 1"
2. Added another picture, created a second roll "Roll 2"
3. Addes a third picture, created a third roll "Roll 3"
4. Called Roll 1 "1980", Roll 2 "1982" and Roll 3 "1981" (Order is now: 1980, 1982, 1981).
5. Changed date of "1980" to 1/1/1980, of "1982" to 1/1/1982 and "1981" to 1/1/1981 (Order is now: 1980, 1981, 1982 in LIBRARY).
6. When I create a smart album, the order is 1980, 1982, 1981.
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Recently all of my film rolls "went away." When I open iPhoto, and have selected my library, all I get is one large photo. When I double click on that photo, it actually reduces and then shows a row of thumbnails at the top. I have tried View>Film Rolls, sorting by film rolls, rebuilding my library.... No success. Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks!! Oh - and it was working fine before but this just happened a day or two ago.

Hi jazzyjasi,
Take a look at the slider on the bottom right hand corner of the iPhoto window.
Move the slider bar to the left to make the photo thumbnail smaller and to show all the other thumbnails.
I think that is your problem.

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Real basic---Library not dividing into film rolls

My wife is starting to use iPhoto. She still shoots film and has gotten pics on CDs which she imported into iPhoto. They aren't showing up in Library as separate rolls the way mine do. The pics just keep being added to the Library without any divisions. It's like they're all just going into one big bucket.
We tried selecting some pics in Library then using the Create New Roll command, but it doesn't respond create a separate roll or divide the Library in any way.
Is there something real basic that we're mIssing? I didn't have any difficulty with this when I started using iPhoto and can't seem to find any Help references to it. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Jim:
Have your wife go into the View menu and select Film Rolls. That should do it.
Do you Twango?

Why even have film rolls?

Does anyone else think that they are a bad idea? I don't see any advantage to them. They just seem to make more work and over complicate things... very un-apple-ish.
You HAVE to import all the pictures on your camera into one roll. Then, you have to make separate rolls.
Or if you want to put some of your new pictures in an old roll, you have to click and drag, which doesn't seem to work well at all. If you have a large library and you want to get to an early roll it scrolls impossibly fast, and you can never get to the roll you want. Also, it doesn't always scroll (at least for me).
Then you'll probably want to make albums out of your pictures, which is a whole separate step.
Why not just do it like (dare I say it?) the Windows wizard? Select the photos you want to import, give them a name and a folder (or album) to store them in, and be done with it. If you want to have the same photo in different folder/album, just copy and paste.
Is it just me, or does that seem to make a lot more sense?
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Hi.
Sure, Windows Wizard makes much more sense and is easier to use. Perhaps what you want is a file browser. There are many available. They let you simply store the photos on your hard drive, in your folders, how you want them. Easy.
With the film rolls, you only have to organize them once. Then place your new imports in the roll of your choice once, and be done with it.
You HAVE to import all the pictures on your camera into one roll. Then, you have to make separate rolls.
Not exactly. There are a few workflow options, and you may find one that works better for you. If you camera mounts as a drive on your desktop, you can bypass the iPhoto Import screen. Do File> Import to Library and you can navigate your camera's files, select only the ones you want, and import. If your camera doesn't mount on the desktop, use a card reader. Each import creates a separate film roll, so you could import in whatever arrangement you like. After the import, you can rename your roll to something descriptive that will help you locate your pictures later.
Or, use Image Capture (in your Applications folder) to upload the photos from your camera. [Image Capture's preferences determine which app opens when you connect your camera, so you can reset it if you like.] You can upload all, or choose some. Upload to a folder on your desktop, then use Finder to group into folders (for your rolls) and even rename the files if you like. Once uploaded, you can drag those folders (no subfolders, though) into the iPhoto window and they will be imported into separate rolls with those folder names. Or drag into the Source Pane, and albums will also be created with the folder names. Once copied into your iPhoto Library you can delete the original folders and files.
Then you'll probably want to make albums out of your pictures, which is a whole separate step.
That last part takes care of this.
Perhaps you are taking the term "film roll" too literally and creating extra work for yourself. With actual film, you may have had only 12 or 24 photos on one roll. With digital cameras, you might keep all photos from a 1GB card together on one roll. You can use the film roll comments to list the contents of the roll. Comments are visible when the rolls are closed in Film Roll view. I keep all my rolls closed to maximize iPhoto's launch speed. I only open the rolls I need to access.
Scrolling problems - YES, this seems to be a common experience. There are some ways to minimize them and work around them. Keeping rolls closed helps with this. More rolls fit on the screen, so it's more likely the roll you want is visible with the roll you are moving. If the target roll is still off-screen and you just can't get it selected, there is another technique. Select the photos you want to move and Command-click to select the roll you want them moved to (be sure this roll is open). Do File > Create New Roll and the photos will be combined. You'll have to redo the title, if you had renamed your roll before.
Why go through this, as opposed to the Wizard simplicity? Because iPhoto offers much more complex features than any file browser. iPhoto is not a file browser. It is a database application with non-destructive editing. You import a photo. iPhoto creates a thumbnail version, linked to your original, for efficient presentation of your library on screen. You edit, and it creates a full-sized copy, which you then modify. It keeps track of the edited version, linked to your original. Your thumbnail is also located and updated to match the edited version. If you ever wish to go back, you can always Revert to Original. The edited version will be deleted, and your thumbnail will again reflect the change. All before you can blink your eyes.
Then consider the Albums and Folders in your Source Pane. With a file browser, you'd have to duplicate your files to display them in more than one album (because album = folder). Copy and paste and be done with it, sure. But how many copies do you need on your hard drive? And how do you keep track of which ones have multiple copies and which ones don't? Things can get messy pretty fast, not to mention how much hard drive space is wasted on duplicates. With iPhoto's database, albums never create duplication; they are virtual arrangements which have no presence in your folder structure. The benefit - you can have a photo in 100 albums, with very little increase to the size of your library. Albums are an extra step, if you choose to use them. If this is inconvenient, you don't have to use them at all. But if you like the ability to create multiple groupings of the photos in your library, the ability is there.
Play with other search features, and iPhoto becomes very powerful indeed. Smart Albums can be created to compile photos based on many criteria, and they stay current with your library. With the calendar tool you can pull up photos from any year, month, and/or date with just a few clicks. Keywords can be used to include or eliminate (Option-click a keyword) groups of photos until you have just the grouping you want. [Ex: I can find all photos of my daughter, with my in laws, at a festival, NOT at Christmas, with animals....]
No one ever said iPhoto was intuitive. But if you like its features, learning the iPhoto way of doing things is a small price to pay.

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I have my iPhoto Library sorted by Film Roll so when I select 'Library' in the source list I see my rolls listed in date order in the viewing area.
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I find that if I have my rolls sorted by Film roll and Ascending (by roll date) the keyword search results will have the rolls in the correct chronological order.
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I have an external Firewire HD with my entire iPhoto library on it (over 13,000 photos/11 GB). I have back-up DVDs of each year (1999-2005) that I burned through iPhoto. Prior to upgrading to iPhoto 6 on the FW HD, I placed each folder from off the burned DVDs from IP5 (1999-2005) in the iPhoto library and then when I launched IP6 it asked me if I wanted to make a new library before importing the photos, and I agreed, yes. All the photos were imported, but they are all in one film roll. When I check an individual photo, it appears to still have all the meta-data (including the actual day it was shot). How do I fix this ? I am semi-savvy on OS X, but it appears the semi is the operative word here. I have "View as Rolls" selected under View. After doing a search here and reviewing Lori Diloreto's website (excellent resource-thanks Lori !), I just can't get my head around what I am doing wrong. Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Do you have a backup copy of your V5 library as before you added the other folders and updated? If so move it into your Pictures folder, moving the other one to the desktop and identify as questionable. Now launch iPhoto and it will tell you it needs to update that library. Your should retain your rolls, keywords, etc. for those photos in the library at that time. Once you have the new V6 library up and running, mount a DVD disk and copy the folders of pictures to the desktop. Now import each folder into iPhoto from there. You should get a new roll for each folder imported. Do that for each disk.
If those DVD disks are titled iPhoto Library then they are in the iPhoto format and will be imported differently. The will have files in the library folder similar to those in your V5 library folder, thumbail files, data files, etc.
Again, starting from your old V5 library update just it to V6. Then put one of the DVDs in the drive and it will appear in iPhoto's Source pane directly underneath the Library icon - like this. You can drag that disc icon onto the Library icon to import all of the photos on that DVD disc and you'll keep keywords, comments, rolls, etc. intact. Do that for each disk.

Cannot View by Film Roll

I have been going through 5 years of photos updating titles keywords etc. All of a sudden, I cannot view by film roll. It is as if my entire library is one single film roll.
Have checked preferences and set view and sort to film roll. Nothing.
Any ideas?

Debra:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. When you selected that option did you have any photos selected? You can only get that option when you're in the main library and have one or more thumbnails selected. If you had all of the library selected then you'd end up with just one roll for the entire library.
A new folder is created in the originals folder, and the photos appear in my "last roll" - but the new film roll itself does not appear listed as a film roll. (the view by film roll option is grayed out)
Make sure you've clicked on the Library icon in the Source pane. The View Rolls option is not available unless you're in the main libary.
If you're only seeing 1 large image in the window check the slider at the bottom right of the iPhoto window and see if it's all the way to the right. If it is, move it back to where the thumbnails are smaller.
Go to the View menu and make sure that View Rolls is selected. If it is and you only have the new rolls that you created since the incident and one other, that's it. I don't know what you can do to regain your rolls.
One way to start reorganizing your photos would be to sort them by date and the as a first cut, create a new roll for each year. To do this deselect the view by roll and sort by date ascending. Be sure you have "Show Scrolling Information" selected in iPhoto's Preferences in the Appearance section. Then as you scroll down the month and year will be displayed. You can determine the start and end of each year, select them all and use the create roll for them and title it for that year. After each year is completed you might subdivide it further my month for each year. That would at least give you some smaller organizational units.
So you might still have your rolls. You just have to get back to the main library, reduce the size of the thumbnail with the slider and go from there.
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Viewing By Film Roll Question

Hello,
Just a quick question regarding viewing a library by film roll:
I have read many of the discussions regarding the file structure in iPhoto 6 and finally getting my photos in the form I want them and where I want them!
Is it correct that you can only view your entire library in film roll order?
If I highlight 'Library' in the source list then I get all the individual rolls llisted. If I highlight an individual year in the source list then the 'view by film roll' option is greyed out.
It would be nice to have each roll in each year available to view - is this possible?
Thanks,
Chris
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Rather than clicking on a particular year in the Source list, can you perhaps view the entire Library in film roll order and just deselect / un-tick the year(s) you do not wish to include?

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I've just installed iLife '11 and my iPhoto library is all over the place.
Everything used to be in order by date which was at the right hand side of the title on each film roll but now all the rolls or 'events' as they're now known are displayed as avatars with the date below in small writing. I liked the old way as it was in order and i could manipulate it the way i wanted it.
For instance, i have numerous rolls which contain photos of the same thing but which are all taken at different times and now these rolls are listed by the first photo's date.
I don't want the rolls displayed in this new fashion with a photo from each, i want a long list which i can scroll down and find what I'm looking for then open. It's easier for me to organise my pictures like that. I could add or remove photos to and from different rolls by just dragging and dropping them.
I have several rolls which are added to frequently and edited at the same time.
Is there any way to get round this?
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Have you looked at Photo view - that basically is how it works
You also can view the library in photos view
And albums and folders are an easier way of doing what you wnat
as to going back - sure - load the backup of your iPhoto 6 library and reinstall iPhoto 6 from the original source
LN

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