Multiple Groups of Conditions in Smart Mailboxes

In Yosemite Mail is it possible to create more than one group of conditions for a smart mailbox?
In iTunes, when creating smart playlists, you can press OPTION while clicking on the '+' sign to add conditions. A new group of conditions can be added.
I do not see anything similar in Mail.
Thanks,
b.

I think you miss the point.
I'm looking to make a smart mailbox to show mail with
(Condition A AND Condition B)
OR
(Condition A AND Condition C)
OR
(Condition X AND Condition Y)
Thanks,
b.

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I want to add a second criteria to group messages about a second company (for example : Mac)
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In Mail, the number of Unread messages is shown the right of each mailbox. But what are the total number messages?   Alternatively, how many Read messages are there?
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