Multiple hard drives in a single bay problem

Greetings,
Here at work I recently had to install two additional hard drives into a PowerMac G4 1,25 GHz (FireWire 800 model I think). Inside both of them there's data that might be used in the future.
The two hds specifications are the following:
1) Hitachi Deskstar ATA/IDE 123,5 GB taken from a older, broken G4 Quicksilver PowerMac.
2) Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 160 GB / 133 HD taken from a broken Lacie firewire external hard drive.
After correctly plugging BOTH hard drives in the lower bay of the G4 and booted the machine, the additional hard drives would not show up, not even in Disk Utility. I removed one hd from the lower bay, turned on and the computer read the remaining additional hd without problems. I swiched the extra hd back with the other, and it would work perfectly. Since both HDs are compatible and working, I'm wondering, why if I plug the 2 HDs togheter in the same bay they won't work? What should I do?
I also tried putting one of the HDs in the upper/back bay, togheter with the original system HD, but the result was that the computer freezed at boot, even when holding the alt key to choose the starting disk.
Now I'm assuming that the computer can't hold more than 2 internal HDs, but then why put 4 HD slots? Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance.

I agree with Allan. Both drives probably have their configuration jumper set to Master (the default for drives installed in external enclosures), which is why each is recognized individually when connected, but not both when simultaneously connected. For simplicity and ease of installation, you can use the Cable Select setting for each drive. Otherwise, one drive can be left as Master (or Master w/Slave present) and the other drive set as Slave. Systems that support Cable Select also support Master/Slave, provided that you connect the drive configured as Master at the end of the ribbon cable and the drive configured as Slave to the middle connector. The drives' labels should have jumper info printed on them. If not, consult the manufacturers' web sites for specific details.

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I used to use multiple hard drives on my pc with my photos seperated by catagory in different hard drives.
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> How can I specify machines with multiple hard drives? I only see
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We use Entourage as a mail client here.
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columbus new boy wrote:
How crap is that?
It's not crap at all.
It's not that simple. For example, I've 3500 songs on my MacBook but don't want them all on my phone, so I have to manually select each song again???
There has to be a solution.
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