Multiple Headphone / Monitor Mix

Just wondering how to get multiple headphone mixes?
Running 2 (soon to be 3) daisyied FirePod's. They each have what seems to be 8 ins and 2 outs. I'd like to be able to give a separate mix for each output (like a soundboard with 4+ monitor knobs on each track). Anyone know how to do this?

Thanks for your reply, and yes, I have the output selected in the channel strip.
I acutally did get it working last night right before I called it quits, but still am having one odd issue.
I set my channel strips up to send to the coreect outputs (backing track to mains, backing track with click to monitor mix), but the click kept jumping back to the main mix. I would set the output to monitors, but when the tracks would play the click track would suddenly play through the mains, and the drop-down output selector would read "Main"?????
I thought it was something at the Concert level, so I changed it there as well, but still no luck.
Haven't ruled out that some of this has something to do with my Mbox Pro settings, but I see nothing there that would be causing issues.
Ever heard of a output changing like that? This happened repeatedly, I kept chaninging it to monitors, it came chaning itself back....crazy.
Thanks again for the help!

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2) Sorry - I assumed that box had 8 outs too - I assumed wrong. You could get an additional multi-channel interface which accepts ADAT inputs as well as analog, which would give you great flexibility. MOTU makes several - better yet check out RME, Focusrite, and others. There are dozens on the market - it depends on your budget and future expansion plans.
3) Yes, or a headphone distribution system - but again, your budget will determine this. Hear, Furman and Aviom all have systems. Or for much less, Presonus headphone amps. Depending on your physical set up, you might need a snake unless you're using an already wired recording room.
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You'll need multiple independent outputs, and send an independent stereo mix to each. The way this is usually done is to use sends to busses, and set up your alternative mix by varying the send levels on each channel to each bus.
It can be quite complicated or messy if you really need total control over multiple headphone mixes, especially with complicated mix setups.
Easier still is to have independent stem mixes, rather than complete mixes (so for instance, you could have stems of drums, keyboards, bass, vox, bvox, guitars etc so you could vary the stem levels for each mix.)
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Do you need to have 4 individual monitor mixes or can they all be the same for each player?
If you can get away with the same mix for each player, create a stereo aux track with a bus of your choice on the input and use outputs 3&4 from your interface to connect to the stereo input on your headphone pre amp.
I'm not sure why you are connecting your interface to the pre amp via an aux input? I would have thought that it should be hooked up straight into the stereo input.
Although you won't get individual monitor mixes this way, each player will have some freedom over what they are hearing via the controls on the headphone amp.

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