Multiple hierarchies in BPC
If an has 3 hierarchies, which hierarchy will be shown in the Member selector dialog box when we click on the dimension to select a different member for the current view?
Hi,
It is related or linked to your Security, if you have total access, you can see all the members of that particular dimension
with the hierachies. You have a radio button to choose " Hierarchy" and "Table". You choose according to your requirement.
I hope this will help you.
Regards,
B.S.RAGHU
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a) still enables users to choose the hierarchy in a dashboard prompt
b) reduces maintenance to a minimum
The dimension groups ages into several different groups like the example below:
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AkiliMike,
please check the answer in this other post:
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Edited by: OBI Wan on Mar 19, 2009 3:29 PM
Edited by: OBI Wan on Mar 19, 2009 3:30 PM
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http://www.rittmanmead.com/files/Advanced%20Development%20using%20OBIEE%20(ODTUG%202008).pdf
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Short story even shorter it is not possible.
Longer...
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