Multiple hierarchies

Could any one tell me how we deal with Multiple hierarchies of data in XI without BPM OR with BPM?
how we solve Multiple hierarchies of IDOC problems for that should we use AS2 or module?

Hi Abhi,
see this link
Business Intelligence How-to Guides for SAP NetWeaver 2004 [original link is broken] - 65k
http://209.85.175.104/search?q=cache:uN8YMaLgj-QJ:www.wca.org/event_archives/2007/Khaitan_RFID_13Feb07.pdfMultiplehierarchiesofdatainXI%2Bsap&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7
thanks
karthik

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Hi,
Is there any way that we can use multiple hierarchies for a single char in single query. I tried and it just allows me to select one hierarchy even if I use hierarchy variable.
I have a requirement where user wants to see information related to a cost center with different cost center groups in different hierarchies (every year has different cost center group hierarchies).
Suppose I want to see information related to a cost center from year 2001-2004.in these four year cost center may have been associated to different groups depending upon that year hierarchy. How can I do that?
Thanks
Jona

Nope. Now way to do this.
There is always just one hierarchy assigned to a characteristic. And even if the hierarchy was time dependent, it only reads it for one key date and not according to transaction data.
Regards,
Beat

Multiple Hierarchies in one dimension - comments?

multiple hierarchies
Hi Experts,
I'd like your comments on my implementation of multiple hierarchies in one dimension.- especially if this can be done in a way that:
a) still enables users to choose the hierarchy in a dashboard prompt
b) reduces maintenance to a minimum
The dimension groups ages into several different groups like the example below:
Hierarchy1 Hierarchy2
Age......Groups........Groups.....
0........0-2...........0-5
1........0-2...........0-5
2........0-2...........0-5
3........3-5...........0-5
4........3-5...........0-5
75.......70-75.........70-80
76.......76-80.........70-80
Right now I've implemented this by defining one dimension having one hierarchy:
Total
....Hierarchy
.......Group
.........Age
The underlying logical table is based on several logical table sources (LTS) - one for each hierarchy as shown in the first example(Hierarchy1, Hierarchy2).Every LTS has a fragmentation definition filtering on values on 'hierarchy-level'.
Columns in the logical table (and of course in the underlying LTS) are:
Column               mapped to hierarchy-level
- Hierarchy          Hierarchy
- Hierarchy_id          Hierarchy
- Group          Group
- Group-id          Group
- Age               Age
Advantages:
A answers / dashboard user can select one or more hierarchies by using a dashboard prompt.
Adding a new hierarchy (a new grouping) doesn't need changes in the dimension itself
Disadvantages:
A new grouping needs manual steps to implement
- a new physical table
- a new LTS attached to the logical table (including the fragmentation content)
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multiple hierarchies
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I'd like your comments on my implementation of multiple hierarchies in one dimension.- especially if this can be done in a way that:
a) still enables users to choose the hierarchy in a dashboard prompt
b) reduces maintenance to a minimum
The dimension groups ages into several different groups like the example below:
Hierarchy1 Hierarchy2
Age......Groups........Groups.....
0........0-2...........0-5
1........0-2...........0-5
2........0-2...........0-5
3........3-5...........0-5
4........3-5...........0-5
75.......70-75.........70-80
76.......76-80.........70-80
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Total
....Hierarchy
.......Group
.........Age
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Column               mapped to hierarchy-level
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Disadvantages:
A new grouping needs manual steps to implement
- a new physical table
- a new LTS attached to the logical table (including the fragmentation content)
Thanks for your time and comments
Regards
Andy

Using HLEVEL Property with Multiple Hierarchies

Hello,
I am trying to use the HLEVEL property on a dimension to indent the rows different amounts. Easy stuff, except I'm doing a row expansion on hierarchy 3 (H3). Using EVPRO(AppName, MemberID, "HLEVEL") always returns the HLEVEL from H1. If you select the same member ID in the member selector under different hierarchies and click the Properties button you can see a different value for HLEVEL, but I can't figure out how to get that in a report using EVPRO.
Is there a way to tell EVPRO specifically which hierarchy to use when returning the value for HLEVEL?
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Paul Petersen
Akili

Mike,
please check the answer in this other post:
EVPRO with multiple hierarchies
It's for the MS platform, but it's the same for Netweaver.
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Regards,
Simmaco

Drill with multiple Hierarchies

Hi,
I have defined multiple hierarchies in an OLAP universe (like state>region>customer>product or state>region>customer segmentation>Product or state>region>product ...) in order to use the drill functionnality in webi.
In our scenario, each webi report should use only one hierarchy and we don't want the user to have the choice between the different hierarchies when he drills down. So is there a way to define in a webi report what hierarchy should be used?
Thanks,
Gabriel

hi,
As 'State' object is the starting point for both the Hierarchies,
Please duplicate the state object and place it in other class. (as two objects with same name shouldn't exist in same class)
Now edit the second hierarchy such that new State Object will be the starting point.
Also , please ensure that 2nd WEBI report uses new State Object in Query Pane.
This will prevent 1st hierarchy in 2nd webi report.
I tried this out and it's working.
Regards,
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Support for Multiple Hierarchies defined for the same GL Segment

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In our eBS setup, we have multiple hierarchies defined for a GL Segment.
OOTB, BI Apps 7.9.6.3 provides support for 10 Segments, and it's corresponding Hierarchies (1 Hierarchy for each Segment).
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Thanks,
Ab

no it is not supported OOTB as of today
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Multiple Hierarchies from Single Dimension Table in OBIEE-11g?

Is it possible to have Multiple Hierarchies from Single Dimension Table in OBIEE-11g?
Like 1)Year-Qtr-Month-Weeks 2)Year-Month-Days

Hi,
or if your lowest level is the same like
Day->month->year->Total
Day->businessMonth->businessyear->Total
Then yes, it is.
Create the first, then you start to create the second by adding your top(business year) level on the same level as the one you have (year) both under your total.
Then when you would add your second base level, there is a special option for it, something like use other hierarchy level/shared level (sorry can't recall and does not have a connection right now) then you select your existing day level under your businessmonth level.
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D

Reporting on Multiple Hierarchies (with EvDRE)

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I have a question regarding multiple hierarchies in one dimension. So if we have one member that belongs to different hierarchies:
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2) if not, how can we report accessing the appropriate value (that is, accessing the appropriate hierarchy?)
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Using HLEVEL with multiple hierarchies

Hi all,
Is there a way to pass a parameter to the HLEVEL keyword to specifiy which hierarchy (Parent H1,H2, H3, etc.) to use when pulling the HLEVEL?
We would like to use HLEVEL for report formatting however we need the ability to choose the hiearchy.
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Mike

Mike,
please check the answer in this other post:
EVPRO with multiple hierarchies
It's for the MS platform, but it's the same for Netweaver.
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Simmaco

Multiple hierarchies with a shared higher level in OBIEE

Hello all,
I'm trying to create multiple hierarchies for a shared dimension in OBIEE. I have gotten these to work in the past when each hierarchy for the dimension all shares the common “grand total” level at the top, but I now I'd like multiple hierarchies that share a common higher level that isn't the grand total level.
Here's what I'm trying to do with a Customer Geography hierarchy. I want to give the user the option to drill from the customer "Country" and go either into "Cities" or "States":
Grand Total level
--->Country level
------> State level
---------> Customer detail level
------> City level
---------> Customer detail level
So "Country" is the common parent of "State" and "City", and "State" and "City" each have" Customer detail" as the lowest level. The Admin Tool let's me build exactly this in my RPD (with no errors/warnings), but when I go to drill on Country in an Answers report, I don't get the option to navigate down to State or City; it just automatically drills into the underlying states -- never shows cities.
I guess I was hoping there'd be a pop up option to ask the user which path I wanted to drill down on (kind of like what shows up for multiple navigation targets in an Answers request).
Am I missing a setup step in my RPD for this multiple hierarchy? Is a shared higher level multiple hierarchy even possible in OBIEE?
Thanks,
Jeremy
Edited by: OBI Wan on Mar 19, 2009 3:29 PM
Edited by: OBI Wan on Mar 19, 2009 3:30 PM
Edited by: OBI Wan on Mar 19, 2009 11:20 PM

Thanks mma for the help. I thought I saw in your reply this link as well to RittmanMead, but it's not showing up now?
http://www.rittmanmead.com/files/Advanced%20Development%20using%20OBIEE%20(ODTUG%202008).pdf
Anyway, on slide 37 of Rittman's presentation, that screen shot he has of Country, City, and State is exactly what I am attempting to do. I was hoping my issue would be a bit more straightforward than the recommended ragged hierarchy work arounds, but I may still have to do something like that in the end.
This issue just seems more simple than ragged hierarchies, because I start from the same level and end up back at the exact same level (instead of different destination levels as can be the case in ragged hierarchies). I don't know -- maybe my example is ragged as well.
If Rittman got that hierarchy in his screen shot on slide 37 to work like I'm trying to, then that would be perfect. :)

Dimension Design - Single Dimension with Multiple Hierarchies

Morning,
the purpose of this discussion is to understand how we should design a specific dimension with 3 levels and multiple hierarchies for optimal performance.
We have an institution dimension with the following characteristics:
Characteristics
Dimension: Institution
Levels:
1. Total Bank (TB) Level
2. Peer Group (PG) Level
3. Institution Level
Hierarchies:
1. Some of the hierarchies have 3 levels and others have only 2 levels (Skip Level)
2. ALL the hierarchies have a TB level and an Institution level
3. None of the hierarchies have the same leafs
4. Some of the hierarchies leafs can overlap
Design:
We are considering two approaches for the institution dimension levels:
a)
Levels:
Hierarchy 1 TB Level
Hierarchy 1 PG Level
Hierarchy 1 Inst Level
Hierarchy 2 TB Level
Hierarchy 2 Inst Level
Hierarchy 3 TB Level
Hierarchy 3 Inst Level
Note:
This approach is working and the resulting dimension and cubes are used by OBIEE, but some of the OBIEE analysis takes a long time (more than a minute) to return the results.
At this point, we are not sure whether this approach will result in an optimal design from a performance perspective and are looking at restructuring the dimension to represent only the three conceptual levels as indicated below.
b)
Levels:
1. Total Bank (TB) Level
2. Peer Group (PG) Level
3. Institution Level
The rest of the dimension i.e. hierarchies, attributes and mappings are defined in the same way.
The cube associated with this dimension have approximately 80 million records.
Please advise on any best practices or design considerations that we need to take into account.
Thanks

No, it is not possible to have multiple hiearchies in a PC logical dimension.
The concept of the Parent-Child (PC) hierarchy is completely different from the level-based hierarchy. Specifically the PC hierarchy expects a predefined / architected table with corresponding PC column/value structuring with or without attributes.
Short story even shorter it is not possible.
Longer...
In the RPD the BMM actually prevents you from adding a new logical level, child level, or parent level when you have selected that the logical dimension be a parent child logical dimension with Parent-Child hierarchy.
On another note...
Have you tried architecting/building your PC source table so that it represents the roll-up and bottom child-levels like you are seeking? That is, that same member in the child column more than once having a separate parent value. That should be doable.
That was a great question, please award points if this answered your question or it was helpful.
Cheers,
Christian
http://www.artofbi.com

Multiple Hierarchies on single characteristic in BEx

In BEx 3.5 Is there a way to display multiple hierarchies/groups on one characteristic? For example, reporting by a Cost Element with several child hierarchy subgroups from differnt parents. An orphanage if you will.
I try that and the fisrt group displays but the rest are in Not Assigned area.

Thanks. That's what I was afraid of. I'm finding that to be true as well. I tried building a custom hierarchy based on sub-groups of other hierarchies. Not possible either. That would be a nice feature to have, so that the sub-groups are maintianed as they are from the source.

Multiple hierarchies single dimension single report

I am trying to add multiple hierarchies from a single dimension in a single report. To create the hierarchy in BI admin I followed the instructions found here
Oracle BI EE 10.1.3.3/2 &#8211; One Dimension &#8211; Multiple Hierarchies &laquo; Business Intelligence &am…
and here
https://forums.oracle.com/thread/2440305
My Patient hierarchy looks like the this
All Patients->Gender->Patient ID
All Patients->Age Group->Patient ID
When I drag and drop the second hierarchy in the Criteria Oracle BI Answers says the following "...you can only add one hierarchy per dimension to a report". I deduct that what I am trying to do is not possible!:-)
Q1: Is this feature indeed not supported or am I doing something wrong?
Q2: If this is not supported can someone explain why?
Version Oracle Business Intelligence 11.1.1.6.0

a) Reporting across levels of 2 hierarchies is not supported. As explained below, you cannot use OLAP to get aggregate values at cross combination of levels from hierarchies: H1 and H2.
However if you wish to, you can report at the lowest level, Patient, common to both hierarchies and display the Age Group as well as Gender attributes corresponding to each patient. This becomes reporting at Patient/lowest level. You can of course use the capabilities of the reporting tool like obiee to use a Pivot object (say) and exclude Patient columns like Id, name etc. and get obiee to perform localized summaries within the reporting layer and get summarizations of interest. OBIEE Pivot measures allow for aggregation using Min, Max, Sum, Count, Running Sum etc. OLAP facilitates this solution but does not particularly help in the aggregation (since aggregation is now being done in obiee and not as per cube definition rules in olap aw). It acts as a source for information at the lowest level stored in the cube. Some performance degradation would result but it may be acceptable/manageable depending on the data volumes/report criteria.
NOTE: For workaround/solution, use the regular fields, not hierarchical columns, from OBIEE presentation layer.
b) Not supported: OLAP Cubes contain pre-calculated (or dynamically calculated) summaries at various level of each hierarchy. This aids in faster reporting performance. Allowing 2 hierarchies at the same time defeats this feature/goal. A cross combination of levels across different hierarchies requires a dynamic recalculation of the detail records to get the right values for, say, Age Group: 30-39 and Gender: Male. H1 summaries at AgeGroup level for Age Group: 30-39 cover all genders and cannot be split up into male/female w/o recalculation. Similarly H2 summaries at Gender level for Gender: Male cover all age groups. Splitting it up is not possible except via workaround/ solution explained in (a).
Hope that helps.

Hyperion Planning : multiple hierarchies for a dimension ?

Hi,
Is it possible into planning 9.2 to manage multiple hierarchies for a dimension ?
I didn't found that in the documentation but I had already listened that there is a workaround to do that.
Regards

Hi,
I would like for the entity dimension used two differents hierarchies (two differents relation Parent/child), one for example used by the accounting service and an other used by the sale service.
The level0 member are the same but parents are differents in these two hierarchies.
It's something possible to do into OFA or EPB and I would like to do the same into Hyperion. planning.
Regards

Defining multiple hierarchies for single dimension in Administrator?

Hello,
We are attempting to define multiple hierarchies in a single dimension in Administrator. The following two examples are representative use cases for what we're trying to do:
DateDim
----By Calendar Quarter
--------By Calendar Month
------------By Week
----------------By Day
----By Fiscal Quarter
--------By Fiscal Month
----By Calendar Month
--------By Week
Note that "By Calendar Month" can't really be a shared level because we do not want to include "By Day" in the third hierarchy.
ServiceLocationDim
----By Sales Region
--------By State
------------By City
----By State
--------By City
------------By Zip
----------------By Store
Note again that "By State" can't be a shared level because its children differ in the two hierarchies.
The goal is to have multiple drilldown paths supported. If there is a different way to do this in Administrator that does not use hierarchies, that would be acceptable.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Matt Warden
Balanced Insight, Inc.
http://www.balancedinsight.com

Hi,
when defining multiple hierarchies in a dimension, the lowest level needs to be the same for each hierarchy...that's a prerequisite.
But I think you can define them this way...and restrict your 'drill' level on your fact table...as I think you will have a different aggregation level overthere.
So for your dimension you'll set the logical level on the lowest level and in your fact you can play with the logical level depending on to the drill level?
Can that help you?
A.

How does Disco handle multiple hierarchies in dimension from OWB?

Hi,
I have a ROLAP cube developed with OWB. All the dimensions have only one hierarchy at the moment. I derive the EUL from this cube.
One of the dimensions now need another hierarchy. Does anyone know how Discoverer handles multiple hierarchies in a dimension? How would you be able to choose which hierachy to use in a Disco worksheet? Can you actually use multiple hierarchies or only the hierachy set as the default?
Thanks

Hi,
Yes, you can set up multiple hierarchies in Discoverer for the same EUL items. When you drill down you have the option to select which hierarchy you use.
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