Multiple material determination

Dear Experts
When matl PARTA has a stock out then the system must automatically replace PARTA by PARTB
In vb11 matl entered=PARTA Subst Matl=PARTA. In the variant the seuence is as follows:
PARTA
PARTB
MRP indicator for PARTA activated, but not for PARTB
Stk qty maintained as: PARTA=100 and PARTB=100
In sales order i entered PARTA=100 units, then sub item got displayed as PARTA=100. Then again, below this, entered PARTA=10 then subitem got displayed as PARTA=10. It shud have replaced PARTA as PARTB=10, since all 100 units of PARTA have already been entered. But the substitution is displayed in the o/b delivery doc instead of the sale order
How can i get the substitution displayed in the sales order?
Pls provide solution uickly since the client needs soln immediately
Regards

Hi,
This is available in APO component. In Std SAP use User Exit with new substitution reason code of Strategy as A and outcome as blank.
Check the link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_crm60/helpdata/en/45/b90554b31d0039e10000000a11466f/content.htm
Muryan,

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