Multiple Projects & Scratch Disks?

When having multiple projects on the go at the same time, how does one seperate scratch disks so all projects save the relevant info to the correct folders without having to change the scratch disk every time I go to a new project?
Hoping this question makes sense and thanks in advance as always.
Ali
G5 Imac Mac OS X (10.4.6)

You can't, but each project has its own folder in the
capture scratch.
Many thanks Tom.

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I have project that is running too low on scratch disk space. Can I use my boot drive (that has FCP on it) as an alternate scratch disk for the same project? Or does one project have to have the same scratch disk?
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Having all the media in one place is preferable. Among other things when using multiple scratch disks you always have to make sure and double check that your logging bins are correctly set and that FCP is using the scratch disk you want.
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Read about how to use Media Manager in the manual and checkout the paragraph in this linked article titled [Copying And Moving Projects|http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/media_manager_fcp_4balis.html].
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Aha! The ole' laptop problem. Yes, I can see how that would be an issue. Well, I understand your position now and by now you know that it isn't an implemented procedure in FCP, BUT....
There is a trick to get FCP to always prompt you for the scratch disk. It may at least help prevent you from forgetting to set it.
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I realize this sounds drastic. And I personally would get tired of it after the second time it asks me, but it may help you get into the habit of setting your scratch disk when working with different projects. You could always unlock your preferences when you've had enough.
Anyway, it's just a thought if you're interested. BTW, I always lock my preferences to preserve my settings and I recommend it. Perhaps it may help you just to have them locked to a particular drive so that you always know what they're set to at the beginning of any session.
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I am running from an administrator account, but I wasn't running "as administrator." I had already changed the permissions to give everybody everything.
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maxwell wrote:
Please confirm a couple assumptions for me:
1. Because Scratch Disk, Cache and Autosave preferences are all contained in System Settings, I cannot choose different settings for different projects at the same time (i.e. I have to change the settings upon launch of a new project, if I desire a change).
Yes
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Yes
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