Multiple SAP Systems with one Unique ID

Hi,
SAP recommend to have <sidadm> and <sapserviceSID> user account for each system.
Currently we create domain users for each SAP System. We are installing many test servers and trying to see if I can avoid creating domain user account for each system and use only one account to administer all test sap systems.
Just wanted to know if there is any way to have one domain SIDADM user id and one domain SAPService user account to run multiple test SAP systems?
Thanks,

Hi,
Multiple test system you have different SID. so you must use different SAPserviceSID user. But you can use one SIDADM user with the proper permission with other test systems.
I have used in OS400 environment with single SIDADM user id.
please check with users with permission sap notes or document.
But SAP not recommanded this.
Thanks and Regards,
Jibin.

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