Multiple Scale Images in one workflow?

I want to take a large image, scale it down and rename it, then scale the new smaller image and rename it. (The Create Thumbnail function makes them too small, though.)
Right now, my workflow looks like this:
Get Selected Finder Items
Copy Finder Items
Scale Images
Rename Finder Items
Copy Finder Items
Scale Images
Rename Finder Items
The workflow does the first scale and rename, and while it says it does the second half, nothing results from those commands. The log shows no errors. Playing with it, it seems that the second Copy Finder Items isn't working. The only workaround is for that second Copy Items to be pointed to a different folder than where the first items are put (which is annoying).
I've tried throwing in commands for Automator to create a new folder and move things around, but repeatedly specifying where to move and copy almost defeats the purpose.
Any idea how to get a single workflow to take one image, then scale and rename it twice to end up with TWO images of different sizes and names? TIA

Have you tried the Move finder items action, if you say the workaround is to save it in a different folder?
Just guessing:
Get Selected Finder Items
Copy Finder Items
Scale Images
Rename Finder Items (this is size 1)
Copy Finder Items (to a prespecified temp folder)
Scale Images
Rename Finder Items
Move Finder Items (back to where you want it to be, this is size 2)
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