Multiple threads on a Master Page CS3

Hi,
I have defined a master page containing naturally 2 pages left and right.
On each page I have set 3 text frames. Top, Middle and Bottom.
I have threaded the top left to top right, middle to middle and bottom to bottom.
The idea is to AutoFill the top, then the middle then the bottom.
I have Placed a text tile into the top text frame with AutoFill (shift in Windows) and it filled up the top text frame correctly creating some 139 pages.
Back to Page 1.
Tried to select the middle or bottom text frames....nada.
Can't do anything with them. They remain dotted unselected text frames and I cannot select them and Place my middle text and bottom text.
(When I remove the middle and bottom frames on the master page, and define a text frame page 1, I can fill it but without Autofill that would automatically repeat the text frame in the same size and relative position on the following spead pages. I have to manually place text frames page by page with the right size and location and continue filling manually.)
Any ideas? Can I have multiple threads originating on the master page?
Many thanks,
Mickey

I'm not totally sure I understand your question. Are you trying to have text run from top-left to top-right to center-left to center-right to bottom-left to bottom-right before making a new spread, or are you trying to have three separate sets of threaded text? I sense it is the latter, since you seem to want to place multiple pages before coming back to the next set of frames.
Master text frames can be somewhat confusing in how they work, particularly if you are used to other applications where you must have a frame selected to place text. In InDesign you don't need to pre-select a frame for any sort of "Place" operation, and the program will even create one on the fly if required at the point where you click a "loaded" cursor.
Alternately, you can drag a frame with the loaded cursor to your desired size and shape, or, if a frame happens to be available you can use it, including frames on the master page, by moving the loaded cursor over the frame and noting that the cursor itself changes shape to include parentheses. Exactly what happens when you click the loaded cursor depends on what you are placing and the action you take.
Placing a graphical element uses the top-left corner as the reference, so if you click and release the loaded cursor that will become the top left corner of a frame the size and shape require to place the object at 100% scale. Dragging and releasing the cursor will create a frame the size and shape you drag, and the object will be placed within it with the upper left corner in the upper left, and scaled to 100%. If the frame size does not match the object, it will either have empty space or the object will be cropped.
Placing into an existing frame is similar, except you can create a frame in advance with scaling or filling rules applied, or even reflection or rotation, along with any effects you might want to add (putting a frame that's pre-styled in this way onto a master page can be a real timesaver in some situations).
Placing text is a bit different, but similar. If you click and release the loaded cursor, InDesign will create a new text frame with the top edge at the point you click, and the frame will be made to fill the column guides (every page has at least one column that fills the margins) down to the bottom margin guide. Text will fill this frame from the top according to whatever the default frame insets are set to. Default alignment appears not to be honored.
If you click and drag a frame, that frame will be filled, or if you click over an existing frame, that also will be filled, but in this case any vertical justification options that have been applied to the frame will be honored.
My students last year discovered what appears to be an un-documented ripple in placing into an existing frame. If you happen to click the loaded cursor on a guide a new frame will be created using the on-the-fly rules (you can actually see the cursor change back to not having the parentheses as you cross over guides) so I always recommend clicking well inside away from the frame edges or any ruler guides when trying to place content into an existing frame.
Hope that helps.
Peter

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