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This is the flip side to the threads on how to apply a transition to multiple edits simultaneously -- and a search of the manual, this forum, and some Googling has yet to find an answer.
I need to apply/combine two different video transitions to the same edit. Anyone know of a workflow and/or workaround that could achieve this?
Specifically, I want to create a transition which combines the Zoom transition from the 3D Simulation effects folder, with the Dither Dissolve from the Dissolve folder. The effect I want to achieve is to have the outgoing clip shrink away to reveal the incoming clip, and, at the same time (while that outgoing clip is shrinking away), to ALSO have it be dither dissolving into the new, incoming clip.
So far the closest I can get is to put the incoming clip on a separate, overlapping video track and apply the dither dissolve to its head, while immediately below it (on V1), I apply the Zoom to the tail of the outgoing shot. But this doesn't get the exact effect I want, since the dithering affects the full frame of the new incoming shot, whereas what I want is for the dither dissolve to only be happening within the ever-shrinking frame of the outgoing clip.
Does that make sense? And if it does, am I S.O.L. -- or just in for a whole lot more trouble than this effect is worth?
John Bertram
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I apply the Zoom to the tail of the outgoing shot. But this doesn't get the exact effect I want, since the dithering affects the full frame of the new incoming shot, whereas what I want is for the dither dissolve to only be happening within the ever-shrinking frame of the outgoing clip. < </div>
(I'm not at my FCP machine at the moment, can't test it.) Because these are transitions, you may not be able to apply them like you can filters; they must be applied between two overlapping clips. That could make this a bit difficult.
I suggest you copy and place the outgoing and incoming shots in separate sequences because you're going to render them and export them separately as movies.
Apply the zoom to the outgoing shot. Render and export. Find the clip and import it. REplace it in the original sequence and now apply your dither transition between the zoom movie and the incoming clip.
The reason you want both clips in separate sequences is so you can play around with other effects. You could nest these, too. But rendering them will lock the media. Just be sure to export a self-contained movie and do not attempt to import the render file.
Does that make sense? And if it does, am I S.O.L. -- or just in for a whole lot more trouble than this effect is worth? < </div>
It's really hard to try to describe these things in these little posties. I have no confidence that I understand exactly what you're hoping to do and none that I've offered a possible solution. But please let us know how you make out.
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