Multitrack Mix Down Question

I use the multitrack view to perform cross fades when I am patched a recording. I notice that when I ultimately export the resulting file via audio mix down that the overall levels of the recordings decrease. I am not talking about the parts of the recording that I have cross faded. I am referring to the untouched parts. Are the other settings that I need to be aware of so this doesn't happen?

dminches wrote:
Are the other settings that I need to be aware of so this doesn't happen?
Only one...
If you go to Preferences>Multitrack and change the pan law default setting from -3dB center to L/R cut Log, your mix will come out 3dB higher, and it's almost certainly this that you've noticed.
Important note: after you've changed the setting, you have to restart Audition for it to take effect.

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Export your mix. In the After Export drop-down you should find *Add to New Tracks in session* (or something like that)
!http://rdiv.com/screenshots/STP_exportOption.jpg!

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Hi Guys,
I apologise for the large holes in my knowledge in advance.
I have asked a similar question before but I got a screen grab that does not appear in my version of STP (I use Version 2.0 I think, apologies, I am at work so can't be totally sure)
I have created a 30 minute project that goes accross 3 tracks with various bits of cut audio.
If I wan't to create one single MP3 of the whole piece I really struggle. The Option to create 'MP3' is greyed out, and the only option that creates the seems to create the single 'submix' file, is the option to export all tracks, buses and submixes etc.
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I then can't convert the wav to an Mp3 (perhaps because it is not a standard wav) which means curtains for my podcast at present.
I am so sorry for the drivel that I have just written, If it does make sense I would be so glad if you could help me out.
How best to Mix Down my project?
Many thanks.
Dave.

Hi there,
My bad, the master mix was there, it is at the top but seperate so i must have missed it or thought it was the title of the menu, anyway, thanks for your help on that one.
The surround sound issue still bugs me but I changed the setting in 'Multitrack' and it seemed to work, as for the submix track, i see that at the bottom of the project (along with busses?) and there doesn't appear to be any sound file in there, i'll take another look and see if the settings need changing.
Thanks so much for your help as it was really doing my head in (along with the random crashes and slight movements in levels that I didn't touch)
It's fixed now so thank you very much indeed!!!
Here is the file if you wanna listen to it (shamelss plug), it;s a bit weird.
http://thehorncast.blogspot.com/
Dave

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Make sure to keep a copy of your orchestral GarageBand project. You may not be happy with the mix when everything is completed.
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Might be a silly question but here it goes! What is the point of doing an audio mix down at the end of a project in FCP? Does it improve the sound?

HI there
Doesnt improve the sound at all. when you edit you place your music , sfx , source sound on probably 3+ tracks .. "Mix down " combines all these tracks and their audio into two or even 1 usable track/s.

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It immediatley pops up a error saying that a track was not found. "Audio File "guiro.wav" not found"
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http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/ozone/OzoneDitheringGuide.pdf ---> specifically Section: VIII "Don't believe the hype"
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