Music audio quality compared on N8 vs. 5800 etc

Hi, I have looked at the stats regarding audio quality for the N8 compared with the 5800 (which I have) and I see mainly some differences in cross talk... Has anyone done a listening comparison on the audio output for music on these phones and perhaps any of the other Nokia media playing phones compared with these two?  I am mainly interested in the headphone output but will also use it direct to a hi-fi amp. Thanks Paul.
ps. Would be nice to have an app for controlling windows media players wirelessly a bit like the sonos app for iphone/android but I don't think there is such a thing???

I had a quick search for an app like that on the OVI store but i cant see anything that looks good, but there may be some 3rd party ones out there that could work. just be wary of scammers.
As for the quality, i have used both these models for music playback and i cant see any difference in quality apart from the quality of the MP3 or song your using. Hope that helps
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