Mutually cancelling entry in CJI3 after order settlement to WBS element

Hi,
In our scenario we create Service Orders for work execution & assign WBS element to the service order (to control the spends). When actual costs get booked in the service order, I can see these costs in the Project Actual Cost Line items report (CJI3). When I settle the order costs to the WBS element, there is a mutually cancelling entry in the CJI3 report for that WBS element for the settled amount. Is this the right behaviour?
Can someone pl enlighten how the cost flows from order to WBS element before settlement & after settlement?
Thanking you in advance
Rgds
Deepak

That's normal with line item report incase you use settlement 'By cost element' (Allocation structure)
If you use by settlement 'Settlement cost element' you see another line item but again the net balance would be zero.
But in case of hierarchy reports in PS settlement transactions are ignored.
To see actual costs on WBS in the line item report, try to use filters and filter out settlement transaction (field offset type, or settlement cost element)
Regards
Sreenivas

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