Mvt 122 vs 161.
Hi,
why for returns delivery to vendors SAP allows two different mvt (122 or 161) ?
When is better use 122 and when 161 ?
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Check this links for answers
Difference between 122 and 161 movement type
Difference betn 161-122
Difference betn 161-122
Movement type 122 & 161
Mvt types
Re: 161 movement type
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Difference between mvt 122 & mvt 161
Hi gurus,
is there any difference between mvt 122 and mvt 161,
both are to return the goods to vendor,
will reward points
rgds122 Return delivery to supplier or to production
Using movement type 122, you can distinguish real return deliveries for a purchase order or order from cancellations (102).
In the standard version, you must enter a reason for the return delivery if you are using movement type 122. In this way, evaluations of return deliveries are possible.
The effects of movement type 122 correspond to a cancellation of movement type 101.
161 Return for purchase order
If a purchase order item is marked as a returns item, the returns to vendor are posted using movement type 161 when the goods receipt for purchase order is posted.
Movement type 161 has the same effects as movement type 122.
Regards,
Nilesh -
Hi all
At which situation we use the following mvt types.Give me some examples.
Mvt 122(Return delivery to vendor)
Mvt 161(Returns for purchase order)
Regards
Vel
Note : Please search forum before posting.Subject is discussed already.
Edited by: Jeyakanthan A on Jun 2, 2011 4:51 PMHi,
We use mvt 122 for return delivery when invoice is not posted.
We use mvt 161 for return delivery when invoice is posted for PO. Returns PO is created and return delivery with mvt 161 is created with ref to returns PO. A credit memo is generated which relieves the liability to the vendor.
Regards,
Janagiraman. -
Miro for return delivery mvt 122
Hi experts
I m doing miro ( credit memo ) for return delivery with mvt 122.
in this case it is not bringing the quantity and amount of which i have made the return delivery.
but it is bringing whole quantity and amount of PO.
Please help how can i get the amount of return delivery in credit memo automatically.hi
if you have already posted the invoice then dont go by the movement type 122
the better way is to create an return Po with same vendor and material as before and in ME21N flag on the indicator return at item level.
Then do the vendor return wrt to the return PO using trax MIGO the system will use the movement type 161 here post the document
Then go to the MIRO trax and Post the credit memo.
Award if usefull
Regards
Sujoy -
Difference between 122 and 161 movement type
Hi,
Can anyone explain me the difference between 122 and 161 movement type?
How will be the finance postings?
Can these movement types will be used in outbound delivery? If so,what kind of scenarios this can be used?
Thanks
SriniHi
Both are belongs to vendor return
1. 122 - return to vendor -total consignment - return total received gr qty
Migo - return delivery with 122- j1is - credit memo
2. 161 - here you have to crate the return po. return to vendor for partial qty.
after po- gr - j1is-credit memo
Laxman -
Difference between 102, 122 and 161
Hi,
Can anybody expain to me in detail the difference between 102, 122 and 161.
Regards
DeepakHi
102 - Canceelation of 101 movment , there is no Partial Cancellation possible.
You cannot directly use this Movment type , The sytem Picks up the movment when you cancel a material Doucment
122 Return delivery to supplier or to production
Using movement type 122, you can distinguish real return deliveries for a purchase order or order from cancellations (102).
In the standard version, you must enter a reason for the return delivery if you are using movement type 122. This enables you to carry out evaluations for return deliveries.
The effects of movement type 122 correspond to a cancellation of movement type 101.
Possible special stock indicators:
K, O, E, Q
161 Return for purchase order
If a purchase order item is marked as a returns item, the returns to vendor are posted using movement type 161 when the goods receipt for purchase order ( 101) is posted.
Movement type 161 has the same effects as movement type 122.
Possible special stock indicators:
K, O, E, Q
Thanks & Regards
Kishore -
Hi,
Which is the recommended process to follow for return to vendor....the 122 or the 161 movement type ? Does having QM installed play a role in deciding the method to be followed ?
For 122 the process would be create a return delivery via MBRL and do the PGI ? Am I right or are there any other steps ?
For 161 the process would be receieve the original PO, then on the original or new ? PO mark the return item checkbox and do a normal MIGO 101 which will behind the scenes do a 161 ? A I right ?
What about the price of the movements ? Which method is more detrimental to the price ?
ThanksHi,
Movt type 122: you can use this in industry when if u want to return the material to vendor 122 MT is used this can be used when Vendor invoice is still pending if As soon as you select drill drop option from MIGO screen the option return to delivery will appear and here system automatically picks up movt type 122 there you have to enter the GR # against which you had already done Goods receipt with 101.
Movt type --> 161 is used for material returned to vendor via Return PO ,First create return PO for Returns Item, select Return Indicator in item over view & save.
For example if procured a material like Container with Qty 100 QA approves the same 100 qty
All the transaction has completed such as GR> Excise ( Part II) > MIRO> Payment run.
When you are issuing material to shop floor and in production line some material say 25 got rejected
As per material sampling can be checked randomly as per QA plan it is not possible to check entire lot and if you wants to send s the rejected material back to vendor with Applicable duties in that case it is useful to create return PO > GR (Here system automatically picks up Movt type 161) Qty reduces> J1IS Reverse Exicse duties (If applicable) > Credit Memo (Reverse the value of Qty returned) This completes cycle both in FI & MM entries will be perfect.
What about the price of the movements ? Which method is more detrimental to the price- 122 Draws Price based on the GR & PO against which material has already inwarded and 161 draws price based on the return PO created.Hope this is clear
You can check same in below answered link.
Re: Mvt Type 161 & 122 -
Hi,
When is the 122 movement type used and when is the 161 movement type used in the return to vendor process.
Thanks
GS122 Return delivery to supplier or to production
Using movement type 122, you can distinguish real return deliveries for a purchase order or order from cancellations (102).
In the standard version, you must enter a reason for the return delivery if you are using movement type 122. This enables you to carry out evaluations for return deliveries.
The effects of movement type 122 correspond to a cancellation of movement type 101.
Possible special stock indicators:
K, O, E, Q
Ex: You have ordered 20 and received 20 qty. but you have to physically return 5 qty to vendor, then you will use 122 mvmnt type.
161 Return for purchase order
If a purchase order item is marked as a returns item, the returns to vendor are posted using movement type 161 when the goods receipt for purchase order ( 101) is posted.
Movement type 161 has the same effects as movement type 122.
Possible special stock indicators:
K, O, E, Q -
Automatic PO for Mvt type 101 & 161
Hi All,
I need to creates Automatic PO for Goods Receipt with movement type 101 & 161.
I have set Automatic PO check for both the mvt types.
Vendor Master & Material Master has Auto PO check.
Let me know how do i use 101 mvt type, which T-code should i use.
Regards
RaghavendraHi,
Follow these steps for autopo at GR
1. OMJJ - Activate "Atuomatic PO" indicator for movement type 101,161
2. SPRO > Enterprise Structure > Assignment > Materials Management > Assign standard purchasing organization to plant
3. SPRO > Materials Management > Purchasing > Define Default Values for Document Type > Assign PO DOcument Type for e.g. "NB" to TCode "MB01"
4. MM02 - Under "Purchasing" view of Material, activate "Auto PO" indicator.
5. XK02 - Under "Purchasing Data" Screen of Vendor, activate "Auto PO" indicator.
6. ME11 - Create Purchase Info Record for Material and Vendor combination under Plant and Purchase org.
7. MIGO - Choose Goods Receipt-PO,Than go to the Plus(+) icon in document overview of MIGO screen and click on that.Than fill up the material code ,Plant code and quantity etc as is being done in normal GR. Also fill up the vendor code against whom Auto PO check has been done .Also choose the movement type as per your requirement. Than save . Now the PO will be generated in the background.
Dhruba -
CREDIT MEMO FOR RETURN DELIVERY(MVT-122)
Hi all,
I have an issue like, i have create GR aginst PO, suppose 10 pc, then did MIRO for that 10 pcs.
Now i have return 2 pcs with MIGO (Return Delivery-122 mvt) against GR no and same challan no.
so now i want to create a credit memo(MIRO) for same 2 qty.
I want when i give the delivery note no in MIRO screen, that time only retun item(2qty) should come in the screen instead of 10pc.
Please suggest me as soon as possible.
Thanks&Regards,
DeepakHi
As per the standard SAP, it will show full quantity.
But if you want to show only the debit memo quantity,then it may be possible with the help of user exit, check with ABAPers
Regards
Prasanna -
Dear all,
There's a subcontracting order, we receive the goods with 101,but later need to reverse the GR, the system post the reversed docs with 122 automatically, unfortunately, its also a wrongly process, so need to reverse the 122 again, but when post,there's an error msg:pls check table XMDVW, item XX (:material code), xx(:plant code) not exist
can u tell me what to do now, very urgent, thanks in advance.hey
try with MBST
If same error exists let me know
Vishal... -
Dear friends,
kindly help me out in following process.:-
1>GR is made,MIRO settlement is over,Registers are updated.
now i want to reject the material due any problem.
kindly advice me correct procedure to follow.
and also let me know diference between mvt 122 and 161.
thks and regds
nasir.Hi,
a)
1)Create Return Delievery 122 Movement type.
In Return Delievery itself Capture Part 1 Entry.
2)Go to J1IS Create Excise Invoice w. r. t 122 material Document Ref Doc MATD.
3)Go to j1IV Release the Document and take print out.
b)122 Movement type W.R.T Material Document what u recieved w. r.t 101.
When 121 is happen then ur PO get open.
161 is w.r.t PO.
First u have to Create Return PO.In PO Click Return Delievery.
Go to MIGO GR w.r.t PO.
In Header 101 Mvt type and in line item 161.post the document.
Go to MIRO as Subsequent Debit.This will give as a Complete doc.
Beacause after doing MIGO and MIRO return Po get Closed.
Usually 161 Mvt type use is if u don't know the PO and Material Doc.
assume U uploaded Material using 561 Movement type(Cutover data)After go live some material rejected from Quality so for this time u don't have any PO.Use 161.
If this is usefull pls assign points.
Raghu -
what is Difference betn 161 and 122 movement type
NikhilHi,
I think the main difference is between return to vendor via 122 and 161 is that
- in case of mvt 122 you post the GI with reference to the PO (directly to the material document(GR) and thus to the PO)
- in case of mvt 161 you have to create a new PO / new PO item and you post the goods issue with reference to that.
So, if you use mvt 122 the return goods movement will be linked to the original PO item. If you decide to use mvt 161 there will be no connection with the original PO item.
If you booked IR for the PO item and you do not want to cancel it, you should use mvt 161 return process (in case of GR-Based IV).
Please visit SAP online help.
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/a5/63341243a211d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/a5/63351643a211d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
I think this is the most important when you compare the two methodes.
I do not agree with Mr R.B. that 161 is "planned" and 122 is not "planned" - the same decision making process may be behind both scenario. Of course, there is difference between the processes from MRP ponit of view, maybe in this sense we can call mvt 161 as "planned" (even though it can be the result of an ad hoc decision...).
Regards,
Csaba -
Hello Experts,
Please guide me regarding the use of movement type 102, 122 and 161 movement types.
What are the scenarios where the above movement types should be used and what are the reference documents to be used for all above processes.
Also if QM is active then how to use these movement types.
What are the accounting effect that went during posting with above mentioned movement types.
Regards,
AshutoshHi ,
Please find the details of the movement types
I) 101 Goods receipt for purchase order or order
If the purchase order or order has not been assigned to an account, a stock type (unrestricted-use stock, stock in quality inspection, blocked stock) can be entered during goods receipt.
If the purchase order or order has been assigned to an account, the goods receipt is not posted to the warehouse, but to consumption.
In the case of non-valuated materials, the goods receipt is posted to the warehouse, although the purchase order has not been assigned to an account.
Possible special stock indicators:
o K Goods receipt for purchase order to consignment stock
o O Goods receipt for purchase order to stock of material provided to vendor
o E GR for purchase order or order to
o sales order stock
o Q GR for purchase order or order to
o project stock.
Goods receipt for subcontract order : at goods receipt, the consumption of the components is posted at the same time (see movement type 543)
Goods receipt for
stock transport order : at goods receipt the transported quantity is posted in the receiving plant from stock in transit into unrestricted-use stock (or stock in quality inspection, blocked stock).
The cancellation or reversal of movement type 101 is the movement type 102.
II) 122 - Return delivery to supplier or to production
Using movement type 122, you can distinguish real return deliveries for a purchase order or order from cancellations (102).
In the standard version, you must enter a reason for the return delivery if you are using movement type 122. In this way, evaluations of return deliveries are possible.
The effects of movement type 122 correspond to a cancellation of movement type 101.
III) 161 Return for purchase order
If a purchase order item is marked as a returns item, the returns to vendor are posted using movement type 161 when the goods receipt for purchase order is posted.
Movement type 161 has the same effects as movement type 122
I think this may give clear idea about movement types
Thanks,
Arun G -
Hi,
Could u plz explain me what is the impact of mvt type 161.
we have created a return po followed by MIGO with combination of goods receipts<------>purchase order.
here system is propsing mvt type as 161 due to user had selected returns in po.
now i want to know this mvt type impact in FI and should the user again has to to perform MIRO for this returns po??HI
MIGO_GR - Goods Receipt for Return Purchase Order
Movement type will be 161 to deduct the stock and 162 for reversal.
During Goods Receipt for Return Purchase Order, you do not have to change the movement type from 101 to 161 as the system will automatically assign the movement type to 161 upon saving the postings. However, before saving, check if there is a tick in the Return Column to ensure that it is a return Purchase Order
RAGHU
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