My experience with MSI FX5700 256LE TV out
I want to save some folks a little time and pain that I suffered through on the subject of the TV out on this card. I fought and fought trying to get the dual display function to work on both my standard computer monitor and my TV at the same time. I could always get one or the other, but not both. Somewhere in the manual they forgot to tell that in order for the dual display function to work at all you have to have BOTH standard monitors hooked up! Once I did this I could access all of the dual display functions in any combination of monitors, be it both standard monitors or a combination of either standard monitor with the TV output. Just thought you'd like to know.
I have modified the subject line, common sense tells me it would be ignored or lost. At least a search regarding TV out will include this now. Or at least it should.
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This is my experience with MSI, and their NVIDIA GTX 570 reference card.
Hello my name is James king.
and This is my experience with MSI, and their NVIDIA GTX 570 reference card.
(5/27/12) Day one. I update my driver from Beta 301.24 To WHQL 301.42. and as you would expect, it worked. so i restart and go play kerbal space program (if you haven't played this go, play it now i love it) 5 minutes later it starts artifacting, eg. textures stretching, random green spots. "ugh" so i start troubleshooting, reinstall revert and so on. later i give up and go play Portal 2, i load the game opening screen i see lots (100-250) of little flickering green dots. first instincts says its the cable, test nope. then maybe the screen, test nope. i keep testing throughout the night, to no avail.
(5/28/12) so to the internet, for help. 3 hours later nothing, but people with bad cards. at opening i call NVIDIA Tech Support, they say to call MSI so i do. 3 calls no pick up, 4th call and i get a "Support technician" who is no help, says to fill out a RMA form online. and so i do more troubleshooting for the rest of the day. and i give up, and go to bed.
(5/29/12) i fill out a RMA form, end of day i get an email from MSI that says; "Dear Valued Customer [email] your RMA is pending approval, and you will get an email within 1 weak with shipping information.
(6/1/12) shipping information, instructions, but no shipping label.
(6/4/12) i ship the card, via UPS
(6/12/12) after using the most round about route eg. it got to MSI.
United States 06/04/2012 6:40 P.M. Order Processed: Ready for UPS
[my city], MS, United States 06/04/2012 9:10 P.M. Departure Scan
Jackson, MS, United States 06/05/2012 12:15 A.M. Arrival Scan
Maumee, OH, United States 06/07/2012 3:40 A.M. Departure Scan
Hodgkins, IN, United States 06/07/2012 7:00 A.M. Departure Scan
Hodgkins, IL, United States 06/07/2012 2:42 P.M. Departure Scan
Vernon, CA, United States 06/11/2012 10:30 P.M. Departure Scan
Baldwin Park, CA, United States 06/11/2012 11:05 P.M. Arrival Scan
Baldwin Park, CA, United States 06/12/2012 9:42 A.M. Delivered
(6/13/12) email from MSI, says they got it.
(6/14/12) email from MSI, says it is in procesing.
(6/20/12) email from MSI, saying they shipped it and that [this] is the tracking number.
(6/26/12) end of day. i receive the card, and see the case is badly scratched. i install it in my pc and hey it worked (for now). watch some YouTube, and go to play skyrim. start up load my save and i make one step, and my pc hard freezes. "sigh" half an hour later, i give up and go play minecraft 10 minutes in, and it hard freezes. so now more troubleshooting,5 hours later no luck.
(6/27/12) i have called MSI Tech Support 2 times, when they picked up the phone they say to call customer service. 7 calls later no pickup.
and that is it MSI have sent my on the run around too long.So are you asking us for help with your PC issues or simply complaining to us about your RMA which we on this forum have nothing to do with. We are MSI product users here the same as you and we are helping each other out with problems on their PCs with their MSI parts. If you need what help we can offer assisting you with a problem then start a new topic and we'll do the best we can to help you.
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Hi all,
I finally got my system together after receiving a replacement board from MSI.
The original board, an msi k7t pro2-a rev 1, was faulty in which the voltage regulator was bad(?).
3 weeks after I sent the defect to MSI, a new MSI k7t pro2 turbo arrived.
I read allot of horror stories when it came to msi being lousy with the technical support, but these guys really came through and always replied
to my email.
I'll definitely stick with MSI in the future.
stevenslyI had an equally positive experience with MSI when I recently got a K7T266Pro2-RU replaced. It took about 2 1/2 weeks from mailing my defective board to receiving the replacement and all is fine again.
Thumbs up to MSI for a painless RMA procedure. ) -
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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=151401.0I have modified the subject line, common sense tells me it would be ignored or lost. At least a search regarding TV out will include this now. Or at least it should.
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Overcloking experiences with msi 4200 td 64mb
I have overcloked my vga to 300mhz core and 590mhz mem, does anyone have gone any higher? those overcloked frecuencies are normal for that card?
thanks in advance :Pwell i haven't a 4200
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I would like to return back OS X Maverick from 1 month experience with OS X Yosemite ? Where i could find out link to download OS x Maverick?
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I was having problems with my trackpad on my MacBook and it was also running slowly, so in addition to replacing the track pad, I had them cleanout my system. When I went to restore using my TimeMachine back up, my Mail and Address Book didn't restore. When I tried to access the apps through the TimeMachine backup, they are crossed out. All my work emails and contacts are gone! Has anyone had any experience with this? Any and all help would be appreciated.
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Ms-6585 with msi 4200 128 8x blue screen and blank screen with msi agp
here's the system,
sorry for the not usefull crap.
Operating System: Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195) Service Pack 3
Language: French (Regional Setting: French)
System Manufacturer: MSI
System Model: MS-6585
BIOS: Version 1.00
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.53GHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
Page File: 212MB used, 1265MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINNT
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0 (4.09.0000.0900)
DX Setup Parameters: /PackageInstall
DxDiag Version: 5.03.0000.0900 32bit Unicode
DxDiag Notes
DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: The file nv4_disp.dll is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: The registry information for the DirectPlay application 'Gangsters 2' is missing or damaged. You should reinstall that application.
DirectX Debug Levels
Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
Display Devices
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0281&SUBSYS_89431462&REV_A1
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Écran Plug-and-Play
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0001.4345 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/20/2003 20:13:00, 3097098 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: No
WHQL Date Stamp: None
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 3/20/2003 20:13:00, 1261418 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-41C1-11CF-2B67-42A900C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0281
SubSys ID: 0x89431462
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {212DC722-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{212DC722-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{212DC722-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run
i cannot run agp 4x and 8x
if i try to tweek my vid card, i have blue screens
i cannot run any msi agp drivers (all i see is mouse cursor)
i'm running nvidia drivers
help me !!!Quote from: Bas on 01-November-08, 19:55:21
Try again with Vista 32bit, 64bit is highly unstable and only a few have it running stable.
I've been running Vista x64 for the past nine months, and now with my K9A2 P--and have had no problems. I mean, none. Have not had any occasion to even consider reinstalling Vista x32. Vista x64 has been stable as a rock for me consistently since I installed it. Would not consider going back to XP under any circumstances.
There is a problem with Beard0's system that I would say boils down to device drivers or faulty hardware or some combination thereof. His experience is dramatically different from my own, and the problems he's having are not indicative of my experience with Vista, whether x86 or x64. -
Recent Conversation with MSI and Neo4 overclocking "thing"
I had a recent email transaction with MSI if anyone is interested. I tried my best to represent the group, and I know we all experience the problem a little bit different which is why it has been hard to explain and fix. I tried to give them the best info to duplicate the issue in the lab. It seems clear at this point that MSI still isn't duplicating the issue. They are using 166 Mem Clock Index, and the HT freq of 3x and still not understanding the issue, hopefully I have gave them a guide to duplicate what we have been trying to say. Yes I have explained this to MSI before but I really feel I am getting somewhere with my last 2 emails. Once we get them to duplicate the results then I think we will all have our solution shortly. Before anyone says anything negative, at least they aren't saying, oh that's an overclocking problem we don't deal with that. Also remember how long it has taken to get many people to see the issue, this isn't easy to understand so just stay cool, don't say negative sh-t if you reply and we'll see how this pans out. It was actully kind of hard since I am sitting in a hotel room 500 miles away from the motherboard but I was able to use modbin6 to view the BIOS and since I have done this about 7 zillion times I remember the settings LMAO. They have their Venice to 2750, not bad...
Hello MSI Engineer,
The information you requested. The data you sent shows a Venice running at 166 Memclock index value at HT at 3x, the goal is to run at 200 Memclock Index and HT at 4x. In order to duplicate this issue in the lab here is my recommendation. It MUST be tried with a CBBID Winchester RevD CPU and a Venice Rev E CPU and the Gskill memory you have in dual channel. The issue happens everytime with a CBBID Winchester and less often with Venice.
Starting with the Venice 3500+, Set the following in BIOS
[Memclock Index] 200
[CAS# latency (Tcl)] 3
[Min RAS active] 11
[RAS to CAS delay] 6
[Row Precharge] 6
[User config mode] manual
[bottom of 32 bit] (default)
[1T/2T] 1T
[Read Preamble] 6ns (default)
[Async Latency] 6ns (default)
[S/W mem hole] Disable (default)
[H/W mem hole] Disable (default)
[MTRR mapping] Continuous (default)
[High Performance] manual
[Agreessive timing] Disable
[Dynamic Overclocking] Disable
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] 200
[HT Frequncy] 4
[HT Width] 16 up 16 down
[CPU Spread] Disable
[SATA Spread] Disable
[PCI Spread] Disable
[PCIe Clock] 101
[SSE/SSE2] Enable
[CnQ] Disable
[CPU Ratio] 11x
[Adjust CPU VID] 1.45
[Extra CPU Voltage] your choice for stability
[Mem Volt] your choice for stability
[NF4 Volt] your choice for stability
Now boot into Windows. Using Clockgen, increase HTT to 250. This should be stable based on your screen shot and your RAM modules. Now having a CPU 2750Mhz, RAM at 250Mhz, and a HT of 4x250(1000). Test for stablity with Prime95 or other Stress Testing tool. Now we can say motherboard is stable at 2750Mhz CPU, 250Mhz RAM, and HT 4x250(1000). Now return to the BIOS at set the following
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] 250
This reults in a no POST condition for me and others. Now install the CBBID, except you will have to set a lower CPU max speed based on CBBID overclocking potential. In the BIOS, Return [Adjust CPU FSB frequency] to 200, Perhaps [CPU ratio] of 10x or 9x but a [Memory Clock Index] 200Mhz. Boot to Windows and use Clockgen to raise HTT to 250 again. Once you find a [CPU Ratio] that will have a STABLE overclock with a 250HTT. Return to the BIOS and set [Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] to 250. Try and POST. Try this experiment with the 3.1, 3.3, and 3.4 BIOS's. For the CBBID and the 3.1 BIOS you should be able to change the [HT Freq] to 3x, 2x or 1x and get a POST with [FSB Freq] 250, [Memclock Index] 200, and a known stable [CPU Ratio] you found in Windows. The 3.3, and 3.4 BIOS have made this work around not possible. Why does [HT Freq] 4x work in windows but not at POST time?
As a side note. The 1.3 BIOS for the 7125 works with the Venice, and the 1.4 and 1.5 do NOT. So somewhere between the 1.3 and 1.4 MSI created the issue on the Venice. Perhaps that is where you can find the answer and solution to the problem.
Here are some articles that describe the issue on a ECS and Chaintech board that were remidied by a BIOS update. So the problem is not uncommon and should be able to be fixed.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/chaintech-nforce4_6.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/ecs-kn1-extreme_9.html
Here is some other users data of NF4 SLI and Ultra MSI Neo4's if you want to see some other BIOS settings.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=81364.0
Here is a screen shot of my Neo4 Plat SLI (MS-7100) 3.1 BIOS and CBBID Winchester(The Venice will NOT POST at all above [Adj CPU Freq] ~219-229 under any situation but is stable in Windows at HTT 250 with Clockgen). The system is stable and POST's when [HT Freq] is 3x, it will NOT at [HT freq] 4x which is stable in windows but won't POST.
http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/cbbidMSI2501.jpg
Here is another screenshot of the Asus A8N Plat SLI with all peripherals the same. Only changed the motherboard. This is POSTing at [HT Freq] 4x. This is just as a reference that the components do indeed POST with [Adjust FSB freq] 250, [Memclock Index] 200, and [HT Freq] 4x. This board will POST both my 3200+ Venice and Winchester CBBID at the settings described above.
http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/cbbid250asus1.jpg
The following are my BIOS settings that will create a non-POST condition, but the board is stable at these settings when ADJUSTED FROM WINDOWS.
[ADVANCED BIOS]
[Gate A20] Enable
[APIC] Enable
[MPS Table] 1.4
[Boot OS2] No
[ADVANCED CHIPSET]
[System BIOS Cacheable] Disabled
for newer BIOS
[SLI Brodcast apeture] Whatever default is.
[INTEGRATE PERIPHERALS]
[Onboard IDE 0 and 1] Enabled all channels in Auto
[IDE DMA] Enabled
[SATA 1,2,3,4] Enabled
[IDE PREFETCH] Enabled
[NVDA RAID] Enabled
[all IDE raid channels] Disabled
[all SATA raid channels] Enabled
[On Chip USB] 1.1-2.0
[USB KB/Storage] Disabled
[NVDA LAN] Enabled
[NVDA ROM] Disabled
[Onboard VIA 1394] Enabled
[Marvell Gigabit] Disabled
[Onboard Creative] Enabled
[SiI3132] Disabled
[FDC] Enable
[Serial Ports] Disabled
[Parallel Port] Disabled
[POWER MANAGMENT] all defaults
[PNP/PCI]
[Init display] PCIe
[Resources] Auto
[PCI Express Max Payload] 4096
[CELL MENU]
[Timing mode] manual
[Memclock index value(MHz)] 200
[CAS# latency (Tcl)] 3
[Min RAS active] 8
[RAS to CAS delay] 4
[Row Precharge] 4
[Row cycle time] Auto
[Row refresh] Auto
[Row to Row delay] Auto
[Write Recovery] Auto
[Write to Read] Auto changing this to known working value will lock system sometimes
[Read to Write] Auto changing this to known working value will lock system sometimes
[Refresh] Auto
[User config mode] manual
[bottom of 32 bit] whatever it defaults to
[1T/2T] 1T
[Read Preamble] 6ns
[Async Latency] 6ns Attempts to change this to 8ns will lock system
[S/W mem hole] Disable
[H/W mem hole] Disable
[MTRR mapping] Continuous
[High Performance] manual
[Agreessive timing] Disable
[Dynamic Overclocking] Disable
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] 250
[HT Frequncy] 4 (For 1000Mhz)
[HT Width] 16 up 16 down
[CPU Spread] Disable
[SATA Spread] Disable
[PCI Spread] Disable
[PCIe Clock] 101
[SSE/SSE2] Enable
[CnQ] Disable
[CPU Ratio] 10x
[Adjust CPU VID] 1.45
[Extra CPU Voltage] +9.9%
[Mem Volt] 2.7v
[NF4 Volt] 1.65v
BIOS Tested 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4. I have not tested 3.51 but forum users are still not getting positive results
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Dear Aicjofs
This is MSI technical support engineer from Taiwan.
We receive some message from MSI LA office & Anandtech.com.
We are sorry for inconvinence experience when you try to Overclock MS-7100.
We hope to contact with you directly and help you to solve it.
Depends on related message from others, we know that you have several problem for MS-7100 overclocking.
According to your info at MSI Forum, Here is your system configuration:
Neo4 Plat SLI(MS-7100) 3.1 BIOS
3200+ Venice (8x313) @ 2500Mhz
Patriot PC4000 (200:133) 2.5-3-3-7
HT x3
Aopen 6800GT @ Ultra speed
AthenaPower 500W 3.3v - 26a 5v - 47a 12v - 28a
Could you give us more info about what changed item inside your BIOS?
[Memclock index value(MHz)]
[CAS# latency (Tcl)]
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency]
[HT Frequncy]
[Adjust CPU VID]
[Extra CPU Voltage]¡Kor others
We try to Overclock MS-7100 with BIOS v3.2 and 3500+ (Venice core).
CPU ADA3500DAA4BW ABBWE made in Malaysia
Memory G-skill PC4400 512MB*2 (Dual Channel)
We only change some item inside BIOS as: (Based on Optimized defaults)
[Memclock index value (MHz)] à166
[CAS# latency (Tcl)] à 3
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] à250
[HT Frequncy] à3x
[Adjust CPU VID] à 1.450V
[Extra CPU Voltage] àOver VID 6.6%
We will try to find similar CPU as yours to test it.
If possible, please tell us the CPU OPN number like we listed. (ADA3500DAA4BW)
We also help to know any other info that you can provide.
If possible, please help to tell us more setting and system info.
Thanks!
Waiting for your responding.
Best Regards!
Technical Support Engineer
Technical Support Department
E-mail: msi.com.tw
[Post edited by Glenn]Quote from: Indigian on 15-June-05, 19:41:43
Good news and good work guy's
On a side note to chakkasol....
are you using coolbits 1 or 2?
I heard that coolbits2 is the one for our later cards
Good question - coolbits 2. I happened to take a chance from this website and downloaded this file...ran it up against my antivirus and antispyware software and it looked clean. I simply ran the program and viola, coolbits functionality automatically added to the winxp registry. I cleaned out the msi DOT drivers first before I loaded this program. Even though I have tweaked on occasion the winxp registry to speed things up and make winxp shut down quicker, this was too complicated for me to do on my own.
The highest overclock with the MSIs DOT is 11% at 555/1100. My MSI card is actually very stable at 580/1160 for a 16% overclock. I have gotten it to 600/1200 but I usually run the coolbits stability program a few times and it has never failed at 580/1160. I am sure if I had a better cooling system than the stock fan it would probably go to 600/1200 or higher. At a 3DMark05 of 4133 (and much higher if I could get it stable at 600/1200, I would be bumping up against the stock speeds of the 6800s vid cards.
EDIT: Of course, if you download this coolbits 2 program you do so at your own risk...I take no responsibility for the download.
The coolbits download:
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=815
The MSI 6600gt card that I purchased:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=321916
btw, I have ordered more stuff from ZZF than newegg...they seem cheaper (but dont always have the stock of newegg) and the stuff gets here 1 day sooner usually (west coast to east coast USA). -
What games are compatible with MSI Wind Notebook?
What games are compatible with MSI Wind Notebook?
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MSI FX5900-TD or MSI FX5700 Ultra Need Help
What card is the better one to buy and why?
My Mainboard MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR(601-6570-030)
2X 512mb DDR 3200 Crucial memory
AMD 2800+ 333 mhz FSB Boxed AXDA2800DKV4D Y822396250958 AQXEA 0318MPMW
1999 AMD Barton (or though it says nothing on the box about being a Barton and having 512kb L2 Cache) is there any way to tell what it is? If it is can the bus be overclocked to 200 FSB ok?
CPU Fan Cooler Master Aero 7 Lite (CP5-8J71F) is this fan ok or would I be best using the one that came with the CPU?
Graphics Card ???
Almost built.
The MSI FX5900-TD 128mb
Product Specifications
Graphics Core: 256-bit
Memory Interface: 256-bit
Memory Bandwidth: 27.2GB/sec.
Fill Rate: 3.6 billion texels/sec.
Vertices per Second: 338 million
Memory Data Rate: 850MHz
Pixels per Clock (peak): 8
Textures per Pixel: 16
RAMDACs: 400MHz
or
The MSI FX5700 Ultra
Product Specifications
256-bit
Memory Interface: 128-bit
Memory Bandwidth: 14.4GB/sec.
Fill Rate: 1.9 billion pixels/sec.
Vertices/sec. 356 million
Memory Data Rate: 900 MHz
Pixels per Clock (peak): 4
Textures per Pixel: 16
RAMDACs 400 MHz
Thanks for any help!The 256 MB version will allow you to load heavier 3D scenes in its memory with great performance, but the 128 MB version will have more bandwidth and it will generally be faster, although when the time come that a 128 MB video card will run out of memory, then the card will start to swap memory between its memory and AGP memory, thus it will be much slower that having a 256 MB version a bit slower.
Confused?
I´d go for the 256 MB version. although it has 2.8 Ns memory and you could reach just 714 MHz memory clock speed, but the other card will have less memory.
It´s just an opinion, but I would choose 256 MB version if I were you, and if I had the money -
Overheating and Lock ups with MSI TI4200 128DDR
This card seems to overheat and lock up during game play.
Does anyone have a solution?
My system:
P4 1.8Ghz 512K
Intel D845WNL
512 Mb PC133
SB Live 5.1
MSI TI4200 128DDR
WIN 98SE
300W PSU in a standard P4 case
No overclocking
Currently I play games with the case open and an external fan blowing into it.
This as fixed the problem.
I looking for a permanent solution.
Should I get a better PSU?
...or should I just get an ATI 9700 ProFrom what you said your PSU is handling the load but having a dual fan PSU will help temps by maybe a degree or two.
You may not have adequate ventilation and need to ad some fans to your case but that may be the straw that breaks the camels back if you are on the edge as far as adequate power is concerned.
There are quite a few folks that run with the side covers off but you have to keep in mind the ambient temperature where the PC is being used in any case.
So far my experience with GF4 cards is they inherently run hot and can raise the temp in your case several degrees. Nature of the beast.
Bottom line, better cooling and airflow is paramount and take a look at the heatsink, it may have been mounted poorly...this happens with any manufacturer at times and I usually re-mount it with a thermal paste of my preference. Keep in mind you will probably void your warranty with the manufacturer should you need to return or RMA the product. -
Yoga 2 Pro - Broken in less than a year - A terrible experience with IdeaPads
Hi guys!
I'm hear to tell everyone about my pretty terrible experience with Lenovo and my Yoga 2 Pro IdeaPad. It's not a review or anything but more of a forewarning to those who are thinking of buying from Lenovo.
I'm also here to help others out in my situation, that is, if you are stuck with a half broken (or in my case, completely faulty) laptop and Lenovo won't help you out (fixes are in italics).
The beginning
So I bought a Yoga 2 Pro at BestBuy in the USA about a year ago. I live in Australia so I asked about international warranty and they said that the notebook is covered by international warranty.
The day the screen flashed black and white
About a few months in the screen began flashing black and white rapidly (it goes from black to white about twice a second) for about 30 seconds to a minute. I found that you can stop this from happening if you open and close the lid a couple of times. Not really a big issue unless you set your laptop to go to sleep/shutdown when you close the lid. I don't so everything was fine.
The day the Wi-Fi NIC stopped working properly
So then a couple of months after that my Wi-Fi began to play up. I recently found out that you can prevent this from happening by ensure that you don't put any pressure on the sides of the base of the laptop (Eg. don't put your elbow on the side of the laptop and hold your head up with the same elbow).
I also worked out a while ago that you can get the Wi-Fi to work again if you go Right click Wireless Icon->Network And Sharing Center->Change Adapter Settings->Right Click Wi-Fi->Disable it->Renable it
Here comes the bad stuff...
Screws began to fall out
So then the screws began to fall out. I screwed a couple back in when they were wobbly but they eventually fell out without me realising. This suggests that the screw holdings have poor quality threading and as a result the screws begin to fall out. I now have 5 out of 11 screws on the backplate of notebook.
And also the screw holdings.
Yup, the actually thing that the screw screws into fell out as well. About three of them fell out. I don't know how it could possibly do so but it did, it happened when I picked up my laptop from the desk.
And then the charger socket broke
I can no longer charge my laptop -> I now have a very expensive beverage coaster
So then the charger socket cracked in half too! Again, not really sure how it happened but it did, it might possibly be from the heat of the laptop causing the plastic to expand when heated and retract when cooled. I have the i7 CPU version so it may get hotter than normal.
The laptop no longer charges so I no longer have a laptop to use (I use my desktop to work (and occasionally my phone)).
Not to worry! I'll just make use of my international warranty...?
And then the customer service were not helpful:
And then they said I didn't have international warranty...
And then they admitted that I did...
And then they claimed international warranty does not apply in Australia...
So I emailed Lenovo customer service and they kept claiming that my notebook did not have international warranty.
I talked to Jessica, Jason, Jai, Jasmin, Jackie (why are there so many J's?) and Adam.
Eventually one of them admitted that I do have international warranty but it is not supported in Australia. How convenient for them.
The notebook has never been dropped
I am the only user of the notebook
The notebook is kept in a padded laptop bag.
I was very polite to customer service.
All I'm left with is a very expensive notebook that doesn't actually work.
As a result I can only strongly recommend that you avoid buying from Lenovo. I worry for those who have bought Yoga 3 Pro, with it's watch band design and all.
Here are some pictures I took a few weeks ago (I photoshopped the stickers out):
This is what the charger socket looks like now (Hard to take a good picture, sorry!) Note that it ha...
6 Missing Screws, 3 Missing Screw Holdings
This is what happens when you open the laptop
Hope that cuts down your options when you go out to buy a laptop! Have fun deciding!
Patrick.PatrickS199 wrote:
Hi guys!
I'm hear to tell everyone about my pretty terrible experience with Lenovo and my Yoga 2 Pro IdeaPad. It's not a review or anything but more of a forewarning to those who are thinking of buying from Lenovo.
I'm also here to help others out in my situation, that is, if you are stuck with a half broken (or in my case, completely faulty) laptop and Lenovo won't help you out (fixes are in italics).
The beginning
So I bought a Yoga 2 Pro at BestBuy in the USA about a year ago. I live in Australia so I asked about international warranty and they said that the notebook is covered by international warranty.
The day the screen flashed black and white
About a few months in the screen began flashing black and white rapidly (it goes from black to white about twice a second) for about 30 seconds to a minute. I found that you can stop this from happening if you open and close the lid a couple of times. Not really a big issue unless you set your laptop to go to sleep/shutdown when you close the lid. I don't so everything was fine.
The day the Wi-Fi NIC stopped working properly
So then a couple of months after that my Wi-Fi began to play up. I recently found out that you can prevent this from happening by ensure that you don't put any pressure on the sides of the base of the laptop (Eg. don't put your elbow on the side of the laptop and hold your head up with the same elbow).
I also worked out a while ago that you can get the Wi-Fi to work again if you go Right click Wireless Icon->Network And Sharing Center->Change Adapter Settings->Right Click Wi-Fi->Disable it->Renable it
Here comes the bad stuff...
Screws began to fall out
So then the screws began to fall out. I screwed a couple back in when they were wobbly but they eventually fell out without me realising. This suggests that the screw holdings have poor quality threading and as a result the screws begin to fall out. I now have 5 out of 11 screws on the backplate of notebook.
And also the screw holdings.
Yup, the actually thing that the screw screws into fell out as well. About three of them fell out. I don't know how it could possibly do so but it did, it happened when I picked up my laptop from the desk.
And then the charger socket broke
I can no longer charge my laptop -> I now have a very expensive beverage coaster
So then the charger socket cracked in half too! Again, not really sure how it happened but it did, it might possibly be from the heat of the laptop causing the plastic to expand when heated and retract when cooled. I have the i7 CPU version so it may get hotter than normal.
The laptop no longer charges so I no longer have a laptop to use (I use my desktop to work (and occasionally my phone)).
Not to worry! I'll just make use of my international warranty...?
And then the customer service were not helpful:
And then they said I didn't have international warranty...
And then they admitted that I did...
And then they claimed international warranty does not apply in Australia...
So I emailed Lenovo customer service and they kept claiming that my notebook did not have international warranty.
I talked to Jessica, Jason, Jai, Jasmin, Jackie (why are there so many J's?) and Adam.
Eventually one of them admitted that I do have international warranty but it is not supported in Australia. How convenient for them.
The notebook has never been dropped
I am the only user of the notebook
The notebook is kept in a padded laptop bag.
I was very polite to customer service.
All I'm left with is a very expensive notebook that doesn't actually work.
As a result I can only strongly recommend that you avoid buying from Lenovo. I worry for those who have bought Yoga 3 Pro, with it's watch band design and all.
Here are some pictures I took a few weeks ago (I photoshopped the stickers out):
This is what the charger socket looks like now (Hard to take a good picture, sorry!) Note that it ha...
6 Missing Screws, 3 Missing Screw Holdings
This is what happens when you open the laptop
Hope that cuts down your options when you go out to buy a laptop! Have fun deciding!
Patrick.
Same issues with my Yoga, from India.
Screen (twice), wifi, charger and battery issues, SERVICE issues, no screws in the back...
Beside that my laptop USB and bluetooth is also not working and it is soo slow...
I just bought a non lenovo charger.
Yes and my laptop never left my office table.
I was hoping to fix it in Australia and I guess not.
Avoid by any cost Lenovo products!!! ZERO service. -
Miserable experience with replacement LG Fathom, that replaced defective TP2
Freezes
It does freeze.
Alarms don't work right
I use the alarms & those didn't work right. I had set 1 for 9:30 pm & 1 for 10 pm, The 10 pm one got up to 12 alarms--even though only 1 was set. Tech support wanted me to do a hard reboot but wasn't very thrilled about that as I would then have to reinstall software & re-set up linking & set up email all over again.
After awhile I turned off the alarms. But they still went off. I did check--they were turned off. & then it got so the 9:30 one would freeze the whole phone. I couldn't activate the buttons to make it stop or snooze---they didn't respond & the whole phone was frozen so I would have to reset.
Finally I deleted both alarms & set them up again. Working better, but again the 9:30 one has about 6 alarms that go off so I have to stop each one. I think one time I stopped all & the 10 pm one didn't go off. They are supposed to help remind me to start windiing down--the 9:30 one & then to seriously shut down the computer & get ready for bed.
Sometimes they don't seem to go off or accidentally get turned off.
Volume buttons can get bumped & turn to silen so calls missed
Another issue is that the volume up down buttons can get bumped. A while ago I was trying to set up a drs appt I think it was & was waiting for a call back. I finally called them back when I hadn't heard. I think they said they had tried to call. Later I saw that they had--4x but I discovered the volume was turned off so I missed those important calls. Not good.
The keyboard is not very nice.
Downgrade replacement for defective TP2
This was a replacement for my defective Touch Pro 2. I had paid for that top of the line phone, & in CA we have to pay sales tax on the full list price! Someone (obviously going by the specs, not actual usage) raved about how this phone was supposed to be so super. NOT. The list price was about half that of the TP2. It doesn't have the digital voice recorder the TP2 did, nor a lot of the HTC features that I liked & used like the automatic vibrate for appts that were listed as busy. & I really miss the way that I was able to set several cities up in world clock & then I could easily see what time it was & what the weather was. Nice when friends were in those ciities.
The keyboard on this is smaller & I keep getting periods in the middle of the sentence when typing emails which then makes the next letter a capital &makes it hard to read. It has 1 less row in the keyboard. The phone is smaller than the TP2, so easier to carry, but harder to see.
Someone called me on Thanksgiving & I didn't recognize the area code, but I was trying to answer & must have accidentally used the wrong slider so the call disappeared. Then there was some icon at the top, but it was so small I couldn't really tell that it was a voice mail indicator, so I didn't check until way late at night.
Verizon called this an upgrade--even though it was actually a replacement for a top of the line phone (the TP2 was a cool phone, if only it had worked well but it got so that it would randomly change orientation while I was trying to read an email, & it got so the backlight wouldn't always come on & sometimes even after pressing it multiple times) but I would call this a downgrade. While the processor is about 2x as fast as the TP2, it doesn't really work noticeably faster. I guess that's the winmob OS.
Win mobile issues
& of course then Microsoft did a # on users of WinMob 6.5 when they came out with Windows phone 7 which is totally incompatible. So phones that ran 6.5 can't run 7 & the software is incompatible. I had gotten it for busines where we had aps that needed 6.5.
It has been a miserable experience with both of these phones, when I bought the TP2 I went for the premium phone, planning to keep it for over 2 years. Instead it had multiple issues its 1st year which I put up with for months. Finally got the replacement Fathom, which again, Verizon kept calling an upgrade but its really a downgrade. I had paid for a top of the line phone, & got an inferior phone, smaller keyboard, & screen, less features & it doesn't work so well.
Are smart phones less reliable than regular cell phones?
I don't know if smart phones in general are less relaible than regular cell phones or what, but my experience has been very frustrating all the way. These are supposed to be productivity enhancers. Instead I've had way too many issues, & often tech support, while usually nice & trying to help, they didn't always know what they were talking about.
Want a reliable smart phone that does what it is supposed to do--feel ripped off
So I'm frustrated with this not very reliable phone & want to get a reliable phone. But I sure wasn't planning to have to buy a new phone this soon. My previous phone was a basic LG flip phone with speaker & no camera & that thing just worked so I kept it for about 5 years until I needed the win mob phone for biz. I no longer need it for that, & it isn't working very well, but I don't really want to spend the $ for a new phone right now.
Really frustrated with the bad experiences with both phones. I feel like I didn't get what I paid for & again I went for a top of the line phone, intending to keep it for several years, not expecting all the problems I've had with both phones. btw, the Fathom retail price was about half that of the TP2, even though the 2 yr agreement price was the same. but in CA we pay sales tax on the full retail.
I would like to be able to get another smart phone that is really reliable like an iPhone, but really wasn't planning on buying a new phone this soon.Greetings caatkins4,
When your phone is the lifeline to your job, it would be most frustrating to experience issues such as the ones you've described, especially if you do not have a back up in place for when things go wrong. All of our phones are tested to make sure they meet the manufacturer’s specifications before being sent out. It is regretful to hear that the refurbished Samsung Galaxy Note 3 you received may not have met these specifications once it was in your hands.
I was able to review your services when I located your Geek Squad Protection plan with the email address you registered with the forum. Unfortunately, at this time we would only be able to provide you with another replacement. It appears we've already created the service order necessary, and presently, it appears that a tracking number has been created for your replacement phone. It should ship soon if it hasn't already, as it sometimes takes up to 24 hours for UPS to update their shipping information.
I apologize if this is of any inconvenience to you. If you should have any questions, please feel welcome to reach out to me.
Respectfully,
Tasha|Social Media Specialist | Best Buy® Corporate
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Share my experiences with the B520 Model
I have purchased the Lenovo All-In-One desktop computer model B520 on Nov 15th. It arrived in my office on Nov 21st. It’s been a month now after using it, I would like to share my thoughts about it.
Pros:
Saves space, this is the biggest advantage of AIO desktop; this is the primary reason that why I have switched. Computers with a case and a separated monitor is a big issue for me. I never liked these cables for mouse, keyboard, speakers, …etc. it causes a huge mess under the desk. Now, with the All-in-one style, everything is simplified. The only cable I need for this B520 Lenovo desktop is for the power source. It’s designed with different wireless technologies. Mouse and Keyboard are connected through Bluetooth; The system has build-in with the latest 802.11b.g.n WiFi wireless technology. It also has the enhanced integrated 5.0 speakers system that supports SRS Premium Sound Audio.
High Performance, out of all the All-In-One desktop models out there in the market, this machine has the highest hardware specifications. Quad Core Intel 2nd Generation CPU i72600 with Hyper Thread Technology. This is a really powerful CPU, it gives its best performance when it comes with Video Rendering and image processing. Word processing and gaming is a piece of cake for the it to handle. I do a lot of video editing so I will only chose this model of CPU.
The B520 model also comes wit a Nvidia Geforce GT555M. This is a middle class close to a high end video card. It handles most of the 3D games in an acceptable setting, but will not be able to run games like BF3 or Crysis kind of games in high settings. This machine is not for serious gamers, because All-in-one desktops has the performance bottleneck with the video card. Computer manufacturing have to keep down the power it consumes to prevent the machine from over heating. High end video cards all have a very high demand for powers, at same time produces huge amount of heat. This is why there are a lot of people start to customize their own computer cases with water cooling system. It is more sophisticated and comes with a lot of trouble. If you want to have something easy, well organized, and just simply works, go for All-In-One. You will love it.
The Lenovo B520 comes with a Touch Screen, which I don’t usually use that often. If there are kids in the family, it will be a fun toy for them to play with. What I like better, is the Bluetooth mouse. The unique part about this mouse is that it has a build in gravitational sensor, means, this mouse is functional in the middle of nowhere, even hanging in the air. You can imagine using it like a Wii game controller.Just move the mouse and wave it in the air and you will see the cursor on the screen goes where ever you are pointing. How accurate is it? very accurate!! it’s is more sensitive and feels better than using a Wii controller. Lenovo has pre-install some games that can be played interactively with the mouse. The screen is 23″, so it would be a fun experience. I don’t have any kids in the house, so I uninstalled them all to save some disk spaces and speed up the system a little bit.
The keyboard and mouse are both connected by Bluetooth; I also noticed that every time when I start the computer, it takes about 2-3 seconds for them to become effective. I assume Lenovo has designed it with a “sleep feature” for this two devices; it helps to save battery and extend the replacement cycle.
The computer also comes with a 3D glasses. The touch screen has a very high refreshing rate(120Mhz) which is better for the eyes. The screen works interactively with the 3D glasses. When the computer is playing a movie in 3D format, when I wear the 3D glasses and facing the screen, it automatically turns on and I am in 3D mode!!! It supports a lot of 3D games too!! The feeling in a racing car 3D game is UNBELIEVABLY REAL!! I love it so much! It’s a TOTALLY NEW LEVEL of gaming experience!
Also, Lenovo has designed 4 slots for memory modules. they have installed 8GB onto two slots and there are another 2 slots available to use. This is very useful for people like me demands for more rams. It also provides four USB 2.0 and two USB 3.0 port; more than any other All-in-one desktops on the market. The 5 in-one card reader is convenient for uploading photos from cameras. two HDMI ports, I can also connect my PS3 or Xbox360 to it if I want to use it’s 3D touch screen. It has a building TV tuner, so watching TV on it is another feature.
Cons:
Even the computer is very well designed, as a high end user I found there are still a couple places that Lenovo can improve.
1. Lenovo has researched and developed this RapidDrive technology; I see this is an option on the Spec-sheet for the product, but I never had the chance to upgrade it. I demand for a high disk performance; I was a little disappointed when I found out that I wasn’t able to install another SSD high performance disk into the computer. I had to take out the 2TB standard disk drive and replace it with the SSD. It would be really nice if I can have the high performance SSD installed as the system drive, and the HD installed as the storage drive. The RapidDrive technology may become failing out now, because it was from those years that SSD weren’t popularly used. Compare to the present, SSD is getting more and more popular, the SSD is improving it’s performance and lowering it’s cost. In the next one or two years, the RapidDrive technology will likely become a history.
2. I have opened the B520 model to see the inside modules. I see there are still plenty of spaces that Lenovo engineer can use to expand the upgrade capacities. I can use some simple tools to modify the inside body a little bit to fit another hard drive, but it stopped me from doing it because there is not another power cord connector. Those extra mSata connectors are sitting there and watching me could do anything about it; = (
3. Lenovo technical support did not have a most updated tech sheet for their system. Again, I am a tech kind of guy. I was looking for a manual to better understanding the B520 motherboard.(so I can modify it and add some extra hardware to it) I have called their technical support, talked to people, went through their online data base, they weren’t able to provide me this manual. The lastest information they have is for the previous model. The B520 Model I have a the newest I believe. Lenovo should keep up with their technical support, and be prepare for experienced users.
Conclusion:
I am satisfied with it. I feel I have made a great purchase. Would be nice it I can install an additional SSD in there. Would nice if they can put a high end video card in there. Good for home offices, and home entertainments. Not recommended for hardcore gamer.
Price: 4.5 / 5
Performance: 4.5 / 5
Exterior Design: 5 / 5
Interior Design: 3.5 / 5
Customer Service: 4.5 / 5
Time from order to receive the product: QUICKLY
Other thoughts:
When I was doing my research on All-In-One, here are the reasons that why I have chosen Lenovo:
1.Sony has a well designed for their product, but the price is high. Most importantly, the video card they have is Nvidia Geforce 540M GT, and it only supports 8GB of ram, not 16 GB.
2. Toshiba has terrible customer services for technical support. I had a very bad experience with them. I believe they have out sourced it to India base companies. When the computer is out of warranty after 1 year, they charge a $35(or $30)dollars troubleshooting fee. I think this is ridiculous to charge the consumer to talk over the phone to find what is the problem with their product.
3. Dell has better customer service than Toshiba; They do not charge for talking and providing the technical support after warranty, but when it comes with parts replacement, that is something we have to pay which is understandable. However, one thing I really don’t like Dell computers is that they install a LOT of junks onto your machine when you buy it. It’s fully loaded with all these third party softwares who pays Dell for more users. It not only slows down the system, but also generate a lot of garbage uses a lot of disk space. I will reconsider to buy Dell if they give me a clean & Junk-free windows.
4. iMac is also a good choice because it’s well designed too. but I did not chose it because it has very limited expansion ports and they charge insanely more for hard-wares upgrade. They have extreme control over their product from customer modification. They don’t even allow the consumer to replace the hard drive themselves.
5. HP also has wonderful All-In-Ones, but their hardware specs seems weak. Never dealt with HP customer service before, so I will not say anything about their customer services. Hopefully it’s better than Toshiba. = )
also been posted on my personal blogThank you for replying.
Where I can buy a seperate RapidDrive?
I couldn't find it on the marcket, or on shop.lenovo.com / http://www.lenovospareparts.com/
With the mSata power splitter, there is a problem.
The data portion and the power portion shares the same connector I belive. I have thought of it but don't know how to make it possible. any suggestions?
the only thing I can find is this : http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0317944
but I still need to convert the power connector because it's 4 pin molex;. I guess it should work if I use another 6" Molex to SATA Power Cable Adapter.
Also, I couldn't find which is the SATA 3.0 and Which is the SATA 6.0 connector. SSD will have a huge difference in performace with a SATA 6.0 connector. This is confusing because on the B520 Spec sheet it stated both. I was looking for it's manual to identify, but no one can provides it. Last time when I called, they forwarded my call to Intel. LOL! I was like, **bleep**? It's a board you used and you dont have a manual for it?
Anyways,
Thanks again!
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