My final thoughs on the GNB-MAX 6565

tech support sucks, no replies to my questions regarding the fsb reported wrong, plus the high voltage nearly frying my cpu.
plus why is the latest bios v2.1 when my motherboard is v2.2 or is this just how long msi take to update the website, like the live update thing how up to date is that i mean whats the point of having it if its months out of date, i might aswell search myself for updated drivers.
the bluetooth bracket is the biggest misleading so called "feature" of the board, it don't give you bluetooth full stop you still have to buy a damn bluetooth dongle or card at extra cost to have bluetooth capability that plugs into any usb slot you don't have to have a special bracket, i won't be actually taking any action but in my opinion that claim is very misleading and i think msi could be sued for false advertising.
oh btw my mobo is working 100% now i love it apart from.
1. msi support sucks.
2. misleading bluetooth capability.
3. very slow and totally useless msi update program.
4. high powered fans blow the fan headers on the board.
5. flakey bios problems.
lets hope msi's support staff read the forum (maybe they) and try to sort out there problems with there products that we pay good money for

Hardware has gotten to a point that there is typically less than 1% difference between competing manufacturers per a particular chipset. That being the case, consumers are looking for "value added" aspects to make their decisions. With MSI, there is little in the way to that. Support for this board is abysmal. Fussy Logic, PCAlert 4, and even Promise drivers are buggy at best. The so called bluetooth option is in reality nothing without purchasing the dongle. Yes, it's mentioned somewhere in the fine print. But in larger print, it is obvious that MSI intended for the buyer to believe that he was getting an operational bluetooth option. In addition, you can't simply gloss over the fact that the board, with the CORRECT settings in bios, VOIDS INTELS WARRANTY. In case you haven't checked lately, P4 3.06s sell for over $600. That's one hell of a mistake, especially since MSI doesn't seem to be rushing to correct it. With all of the downloads, patches, research, tweaking, etc..etc..etc... , I figure I got paid about $2 per hour to build this thing.

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Hello,
I'm getting a very lousy sound out of my 6565. I tried all options such as with or without the S connector, 2, 4, and 6 channels, all possible inputs, different hardaware acceleration levels, etc.
The sound output is bad, and the microphone doesn't detect anything. I've noticed that many people were having the same problem. Does this mean that this MB requires a special speaker system? Can't I use two speakers like old times and get stereo sound out of them without any software/hardware tweaks?
Thanks for any help?
Maria
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CT6472Z265.18T: 1024MB 184-PIN DIMM 64Mx72 DDR PC2100
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I have the same board but I didn't even try onboard sound. My experience with onboard sound on other boards has made me just start with a good pci sound card (sound blaster audigy). Every onboard sound I have tried either sounded bad or worse. If the board had a creative chip on it you may get medium quality. Don't waste money on new speakers to use with the onboard sound, spend the money on a soundcard. Of coarse if money is not an issue you could buy both.

GNB MAX(6565) NO POST

My MOBO worked fine for 2 months.
Now it's dead.
D-Bracket have lead 1-4 red.
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"Processor Initialization
-This will show information regarding the processor
(like brand name,system bus,etc...)"
Anyone knows what it means?

Hi
I tried all slots and one ram at a time, but still get beep sound. So I just ordered crucial memory 2x 512MB DDR PC2700 • CL=2.5 • Unbuffered • Non-parity • 6ns • 2.5V • 64Meg x 64. I hope their high quility and reliable RAMs will solve this problem.
My VGA card is eVGA GF4 Ti4200 8X 128MB DDR.
I will post the result of crucial's ram.
Thank you for your help.

3.06 vcore and gnb max 6565

Optimal vcore for this cpu? 1.525 or 1.55?
First time I saw the bios the setting was 1.525 but the fail safe settings and the optimal settings recommend the 1.55 core.

look at the box that came with your processor it will be writen there most of the 3.06 have multi vid so 1.55 or 1.525 doesnt matter as long as u dont reach 1.7v

GNB-MAX-FISR Heat Solution

Thanks to a previous post and some other help, I think I've finally fixed my overheating problem (although MSI has yet to return my call.)
The GNB Max-FISR board defaults the Voltage under the "Frequency/Voltage Control" to 1.75. Apparently the max for the 3.06 Intel chip is 1.5.
Also, I had not applied thermal compound to the chip when attaching the heat sink.
After performing both functions the chip running full out hangs out around 60 degrees C. This information REALLY should be in FAQ!!!

it is a 350W power supply..
The DBraket reports all red in 1,3,4 and a green in 2.. the manual claims that the system will hang there if the memory module is bad or installed improperly..
i can't imagine that the memory is bad, since it's brand spanking new.. and i've seated and reseated them a thousand times..
do I have the wrong memory?
I have DDR266 PC2100.. the manual seems to suggest that it might only support DDR533 or DDR400..
- dc

Memory on GNB MAX

Hi there, i have a queestion about memory type for the GNB MAX, in the specifications it says that the type of memory should be 2100 (266), but can i use another newer? for example one memory at 2700? i know that maybe the performance is not the same.. but it is possible to use it?
Thanks in advance

I belive it would work, but the speed would be set lower asuming you havent touched somthing in BIOS. If its on 'by SPD' in BIOS that is.
To run it any faster, you have to overclock youre CPU. Read some about it here in the Forum:https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=27.0

Difference between gnb max 1 and 2??

Hi i just looked at the products page, but I cant see the difference between the gnb max 1 and 2.
can some help please?
thx in advance !

GNB Max------1.0------- 2.0
LAN-----------1Gbit----100Mbit
RAID----------S.ATA----none
FireWire-----3port----none
AGP----------Pro x8----x8

GNB Max-FISR

i have what i think is an easy question
i searched out the specs but didnt understand what i found...my question is what types of DDR ram will this board support :ie 2100, 2700, etc????
also, if there is anyone else out there who was stupid like me and actually boought this crappy board, has anyone put a fast chip, 2.8ghz or above on this board and how does it work for you??? faster memory either??? let me know...thanks

I know for a Fact that the GNB MAX Will support DDR-400 RAM, but will ONLY run it at DDR-266 Speeds and it's MAX Memory Bandwith is 3.2 GB/Sec while Operating in Single Channel Memory Mode, Or 4.27 GB/Sec while Operating in Dual-DDR Mode.....And this Board as you know will only support P-4 533 MHZ System Bus Northwood Chips up to 3.06 GHZ, But will Overclock Higher.................Sean REILLY875

GNB Max and firewire

When I plug a firewire device into the GNB Max, nothing happens. The firwire controller shows up in the device manager and doesn't have any conflicts, also I double checked to make sure that firewire is enabled in the bios. I followed the instructions for connecting the firewire bracket to the mainboard.

It is a Digital VHS Recorder. With my old mobo, I had a pci firewire card, and all I had to do was plug it in, then I could choose the drivers.

GNB Max-SR MSI-6565 GranetBay & agp440.sys

OK.....first I'll give you my sistem.
Msi-6565(v2.X) Bios version 2.2 All board drivers up to date.
P4 2.53
1G ram Kingmax
2X80Gig WD hard Drives
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Yamaha CD-RW on board IDE-1
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Audigy
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more tries ...them it takes.
Need a few sugestions here.
I,ve surched the web and have seen no real solution.
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Jutias

Well...Its morning to me...work 3rd shift.
Anyway. I put the Antec550 in because I thought maybe the BFG FX5600
wasn't getting enough juice. My old power supply only had two molex
line and the antec has 3. So I could use one molex line just for the video card.
Well that was a no go.
Now I 'm just leaving my puter on all the time.
I'm thinking either I have a bad install of the video drivers, or
the video card has bad memory.
No problems before installing the BFG5600.
Was just hoping someone could give me a clue on the "agp440.sys" Error.
Called BFG and they told me that the GranetBay (GNB Max) boards
have issues with the new "FX" video cards.
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MSI 6565 GNB Max SATA problem

Hi I have just picked up a 6565 Gnb Max board, P4 2.4 ,533FSB MAxtor 120 Gb SATA HDD, Asus FX5200 Card, 1 gig Twinmos 266 DDR,
I cannot get the mobo to recognise the SATA HDD, there is nothing in the bios where I can turn on the SATA controller
(Integrated Peripherals) can anybody help?

I'm having the same problems.
GNB-Max board, Seagate 120GB SATA and Seagate 60GB PATA w/ SATA adaptor.
Regardless of how I connect the drive(s) to the Promise controller, they are not recognised. I've tried the 120GB on it's own on both SATA connectors, the 60GB on it's own and paired on the SATA connectors, and the 60GB on it's own on the PATA (IDE3) connector. At no point in time does the Promise controller dialogue even display during boot, so I can not configure the drive(s). I've tried the 60GB as master, slave and cable select in all scenarios.
The BIOS shows SATA enabled, and I've upgraded to the latest (2.30) BIOS, as well as trying older (2.0 & 2.1) BIOS revisions. All show the same symptoms.
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HT5149 Hi, I still have problems reinstalling Final Cut Pro even though I followed these steps. Didn´t find "com.apple.motionapp.plist" to remove though, but the others I found. Reason why I have to reinstall is because I have repaired my Macbook Pro hard

Hi, I still have problems reinstalling Final Cut Pro even though I followed these steps.
Reason why I have to reinstall is because I have repaired my Macbook Pro hard drive at a Mac Authorized Repair.
Short history of repair and my Final Cut Pro installation:
1. Macbook Pro stopped working, sendt it for repair. Had the Final Cut Pro installed,
2. Desided to try a MiniMac and recovered my backup with Time Machine, got the Final Cut Pro working.
3. Got my Macbook Pro back from repair, did backup on this one as well. But this time only the files not the Applications.
4. Removed the files as mentioned in HT5149. Didn´t find "com.apple.motionapp.plist" to remove though, but the others I found.
5. When I try to install Final Cut Pro from App Store, it downloads the application as planned. But after download it won´t show in the Application folder nor in the downloads folder, nor will it start an installation prosess. If I pause the installation in App Store, I can see the Final Cut Pro icon in my Dock. (But, as mentioned, after installation it won´t show neither here or in the Applications folder).
Any suggestions on what I should try now?
Thanks for any reply, I´m in deep water here...

Sounds like there is a file you're not getting. Never do a removal manually. It's so time consuming and a pain. There's a very easy and fast way to do this, safely, properly.
Get the free "Final Cut Remover" app from Digital Rebellion (dot com), use this to remove FCP X.
Reboot the Mac.
Download from scratch.
If you're not seeing FCP X in your app folder, run Disk Utility to Repair all drives.
If that doesn't help, try running Disk Warrior from Altsoft to repair the directories on all drives.

MSI GNB Max (MS-6565): insufficient voltage

I have just installed my new GNB Max, and got XP Pro up and running. Upon installing PC Alert 4, I recieved a warning that the +3.3V was actually sub 3V(2.9+V). What effect will this have? And what kind of Variance should I tolerate?
Many thanks.

My GNB Max + Antec true power 430 read 3.33.
Sounds like a power supply not handling the load.
Acceptable tolerance in the PC industry is +-5% (3.135 is therfor the lower limit)

MSI GNB FISR 6565-010

I just ordered all of my parts to build my new work station.
I am getting a little confused with the DDR situation. Many of the reports on the MB that I have read used the PC2700 ...333Mhz DDr's. Are the boards still only approved to run PC1600's and PC2100's?? What can I expect if I use PC2700's?? I was going to install some high quality OCZ's that were matched....4...256's PC2700.
Also the latest Deluxe version of the board should be coming with ATA 133 and FireWire also??
I am all ears...please send advice.Thanks
Bill Vesia
New station
MSI...GNB-MAx-Fisr-6565-010
2.8 Pentium 4 with Hyper Thread
120 Maxtor ATA 133
MSI Ti4200 VTD8X 128MB

At the present time I am running 2 sticks of 2700 and the mem scores are well let me see if Ican simply post them here.
SiSoftware Sandra
Int Buffered iSSE2 (Integer STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 3774MB/s
Scaling : 3760MB/s
Addition : 3965MB/s
Triad : 3950MB/s
Data Item Size : 16-bytes
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 76% (estimated)
Float Buffered iSSE2 (Float STREAM) Results Breakdown
Assignment : 3777MB/s
Scaling : 3766MB/s
Addition : 3970MB/s
Triad : 3953MB/s
Data Item Size : 16-bytes
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 76% (estimated)
Test Status
Memory Used by Test : 512MB
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 1
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : No
Chipset
Model : Intel Corporation E7205 Host Controller
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 158MHz (632MHz data rate)
Max. Bus Bandwidth : 5056MB/s (estimated)
Logical/Chipset Memory Banks
Bank 0 Setting : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.0-3-3CL 2CMD
Bank 1 Setting : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.0-3-3CL 2CMD
Channels : 2
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 158MHz (316MHz data rate)
Max. Memory Bandwidth : 5056MB/s (estimated)
Features
MMX Technology : Yes
SSE Technology : Yes
SSE2 Technology : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No
As you can see i am running just below the 4gig mark on bandwidth. I stuck some 3500s in dual channel set (got a deal and I am waiting to see whether I need to buy another board to use) and the results did not change. So i would say that you should go with 2700 so as to give yourself plenty of headroom on the ocing.

GNB Max-SR......What Video Card??

What video card upgrade.....MSI-FX-5600-VTD256 or what?
Running the MS-6565(v2) GNB Max with Bios 2.2.
1g Kingmax in duel mode
P4-2.53
MSI-G4Ti4600 agp4x
Thinking it's time for a DX9 card.
Thinking about the Radeon 9600 Pro but I
here there are problems with the GNB and
Radeon cards.
Thanks
Jutias

The Ti4600 will trash the FX5600 in any situation and the Radeon9600 in most situations.
If you want to upgrade the minimum that would be considered an upgrade is a Radeon9700, but a 9800/ 9800 pro/ FX5900F/ FX5900U are better choices.
You can also wait since the Ti4600 can run pretty much anything on the market right now with AA at a reasonable frame rate, and upgrade towards the begining of 2004 when the 2'nd generation of DX9 cards starts shipping (these are the estimates right now).

My final thoughs on the GNB-MAX 6565

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