My ibook is wonky!

First off, it was getting slow and sluggish a few days ago. Then it took 2 hours to start up! Once it got going it was fine though.
I figured I'd do the recent updates (I was at 10.4.2), so I downloaded them and after I installed 10.4.3, things went real bad. Now, it takes forever still to start up, but once it is started up it's not running properly at all. It takes forever to even just click on something. I can barely access anything.
I tried the start up in safe mode, pressing the shift key, but all I get is the apple, not the spinning disk. And that's after holding shift down for a few minutes. I let shift go last time, and a few minutes later the disk was on the screen. Should I keep holding it till it comes up even if it's 10 minutes?
Any other ideas as to what I can do? I feel totally hooped here!! My computer knowledge is lacking as well...
Thanks for anything!!

Hi, Stacie.
1. I suggest you begin troubleshooting using the process specified in my "Resolving Disk, Permission, and Cache Corruption" FAQ. Perform the steps therein in the order specified.
2. Assure you have sufficient RAM and free disk space. See my "Problems from insufficient RAM and free hard disk space" FAQ.
3. Had you recently installed any fonts before the problems arose?
4. For Safe Mode, simply press and hold the Shift key the moment you hear the first fraction of a second's worth of the startup tone, then release the shift key once you see the spinning gear beneath the Apple Logo.See: "Mac OS X: Starting up in Safe Mode." Note that Safe Boot requires more time than a normal startup.
Good luck!
Dr. Smoke
Author: Troubleshooting Mac® OS X
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