My iPods won't respond or display anything

I have two iPod touches that both went out at the same time.  They just won't respond to anything.  I have tried the methods in the troubleshooting section to turn them off but nothing happens.
They don't appear to charge at all when I plug them into the wall adapter (I have tried three different ones, and confirmed them all work with my classic ipod) and they just don't respond at all.  I have held the home button and the sleep button simultaneously for over 2 minutes many times, and nothing happens.  When i plug them into the computer, nothing happens either... no chime to tell me a usb device was plugged in and no confirmation from itunes that anything was plugged in.
Whats strange is that, when I plugged it into the car charger this morning, I got the recovery image on one of them instructing me to plug it into my pc for itunes to recover it.  By the time I made it inside, it went away and I was unable to recover it.  I was thinking maybe I need to let them drain again until the battery is completely depleted, but without indication of how much battery is left, i could be waiting for a month.
Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas?

Hi,
See these Support Articles...
Device Not Recognised
For PC
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1538
Device Frozen
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1445
Backing Up Restoring
The device must be restored from the computer it was last synced with...
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1414
HTH,
Cheers,

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