My LaCie d2 Fix (Bad FireWire Hub) ..... Hopefully

Since doing all the "repairs" to my LaCie I have finally got the drive to appear on the desktop in a regular manner.
These are the "repairs" I performed:
• Reset the FireWire Ports.
• Completely erased the LaCie drive, and "re-zeroed" it.
• Ran DiscWarrior 2.1.1 for the LaCie.
• Ran Norton Disk Doctor for the LaCie.
• Reset the PRAM.
• Reinstalled 10.2.8 Combo update (replaced any Firmware problems).
• Used LaCie Firmware Update to make sure of latest Firmware.
• Repaired Apple "Permisions".
• Ran Apple "Repair" Utility for the LaCie, off Apple Installer CD.
After all these efforts, and un-pluging and re-pluging the LaCie drive to the mac, I finally saw the LaCie appear on start-up on a regular basis.
I then connected my Epson FireWire scanner, through a MacAlly Combo USB & FireWire Hub, and everything was working.
Unfortunately, when I shut down that last night of connecting all the FireWire devices back to the mac again, the next morning upon start-up the LaCie was not mounting to the desktop. Obviously I was, to say the least here .... upset!
Then I decided to disconnect the Epson Scanner from the MacAlly FireWire hub and the FireWire cable from the hub to the mac. On restarting, the LaCie d2 was again showing on the desktop as it should.
I can only asume that there is some problem related to the MacAlly combination USB & FireWire hub. I have been using this hub for three years now, but notice the FireWire hub "indicator" light is not "glowing" as strong as the other power light. This low light indicator may signal some sort of FireWire "power" problem .... or drain on the mac ports that causes the LaCie d2 to not mount when anything is connected to the MacAlly hub.
Either way, coming around from doing all those "repairs" to the LaCie, it seems the MacAlly combo hub may have been the problem all along.
Somehow it is malfunctioning now and causing an issue with the mac FireWire ports that I don't get when the FireWire hub is not hooked up.
Any insights to this "hub" issue would be appreciated.

The MacAlly Combo (FireWire/USB) Hub does have its own power supply. However, the information that was told to me, is that the MacAlly power is only for the USB ports on the hub and NOT for the FireWire ports.
I again, assume, that there is some issue with the FireWire ports, or the internal electronics at this point (in the hub), that is causing problems for my eMac FireWire ports or bus.
Since disconnecting my FireWire devices from the MacAlly Combo hub and connecting directly into the eMac FireWire ports, I have had absolutely no problems with any of the devices mounting or in being recognized by my eMac. Hooked up to the FireWire hub caused irregular mounting, delayed folder display, a just outright ingnoring my Epson Scanner connected to the hub.
So for now, it's time to look for a new FireWire hub/repeater and use the MacAlly for USB only (which I have no problems with.
Also, I always have had the LaCie d2 powered with the AC adapter, never relying on the port/bus power of the eMac. But like I said, the MacAlly FireWire hub needed the port/bus power of the FireWire from the eMac to operate ..... and the FireWire part of hub has since gone "bad" and caused some kind of "interference" to the whole FireWire set-up to or from the mac.

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I have tested without the 2nd drive connected and the problem seems to have been resolved. It appears the LaCie drives do not work well if daily chained - problem with the firewire bus <?>.
I am thinking about getting a firewire hub which I am hoping will solve the I/O error problem.
Does anyone have an experience or recommendations on which type of firewire hub to purchase?
Thanks.
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Hello Hattori Hanzo,
Based on personal experience,and a lot of correspondance with others in the forums over the last couple of years, I would recommend a Belkin Mfg. hub. Others may work as well, but it seems that Belkin has a completely clean track record to date, of being compatable with Apple products.
Cory Cooper's suggestion seems like an elegant solution for a mini. If it were any other mfg. but Belkin, I would suggest that you stay away from combo USB/FW hubs as there have been reports of problems. But again, based on the above recommendation, and the product coming from Belkin, I'd say you've got your answer.
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thank you

thanks Robbosaur
problem is that one of the lacie drives has only one FW 400 port (other port is FW800) and the canopus box has only one 6pin FW400 port.
I can not use the 4pin FW400 port on the canopus while using the 6pin FW400 port.
i'd also like to hook up the video camera.
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I am interested in purchasing an iSight for multiple reasons. I have been reading in the forum that iSight may not work with certain firewire devices which is unfortunate since I utilize external firewire devices on a daily basis and it would not be beneficial to disconnect them to utilize iSight.
I have a external firewire DVD burner which is connected to my miniStack, which in turn is connected to my Powerbook. I also boot off of the miniStack and do not want to change that fact.
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Hello Akuma,
I strongly recommend Belkin Hubs. My experience and that of others that have posted indicate that they work well w/Mac's 25V power.
That said, there is no reason for you to replace the miniStack, which seems to play well with the iSight: however I'm baseing that on reports/conversations w/others; not personal experience.
The iSight is designed to work w/Mac and the chances are that you have a better than 50/50 shot at it working w/your particular "flavor" of other non-Apple FW devices. The only way you will be able to tell for sure is to try it. The final outcome, good or bad, really can't be qualified as it seems to be dependent on what non-Mac FW devices use for their logic chip (Oxford having proven to work in most cases).
James A. Weston's suggestion is correct and a lot simpler than mine. Let us know if you do try, and the results so others may benefit. Good Luck.
Respectfully,
Bill Gallagher
ps-I'm in WI a lot, and would be glad to let you try my iSight if you can't find a friend or neighbor w/one.

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The Dazzle has anecdotal evidence of being very problematic and don't use a firewire hub in conjunction with any firewire devices and Final Cut Pro.
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Thanks for your concern..and yes it was confusing indeed! The hub is in no way connected to our ether-internet configuration here at home. But what has become clear it that I do not have to have both units together at once, the Duet/interface is just for recording and the Liquid Mix for post production.
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Firewire hubs

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Hello a brody,
I can only share my experience w/firewire FWIW, but I'm not sure about what you want to accomplish.
You have an existing 6port FW hub(powered), but if I'm understanding the problem as stated, you cannot run the iSight at the same time as the other FW devices are running without iSight causing the data transfer to the other device(s) to be interrupted and fail.
If that's what your trying to do, I'm not too sure "power" is the issue, but rather a conflict with the iSight switching/interface locking priority over the other FW devices.
The official 1394 FW specifications designate voltage from 8 - 30 Volts @+/- 10percent. I've checked Apple's specifications and measured the two "powered" leads in the 6-wire ports on most of the current Mac, coming in nearly exactly at 25V. This is important if a hub vendors unit is not built to handle that voltage.
Be aware that some manufacturer's hubs are labeled as adhering to 1394 standards(technically true), but may not be compatible (powered) with the Mac and may be damaged or cause system problems; If unsure, the hub supplier's support should be able to confirm that their product will comply with 1394 and work with Apple products and tell you exactly what voltage they are running the twin power-leads at in their powered hubs.
One sorry example of this failure on the boards is a combo(usb+fw) hub from IOGear which actually "popped" it's internal capacitors.
I personally had success with a Macally Hub that ran about $ 80. and can be found here; http://www.macally.com/spec/firewire/connecting/hub_uf.html
and more recently for another family member, installed a Belkin F5U526-WHT 6 port hub(powered). Others reported as working include; Belkin Modelf5726slv and Belkin's 6-PortHub(F5U526APL.
So, if your problem is power, then you should check to see exactly what spec the Buslink hub is running your hub at, just to make sure it is not causing a problem. But as said above, this will probably not fix any conflict with timing priority on the iSight. I'd still suggest that you consider unplugging the iSight when your using any other FW device.
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The Firewire PCI card i got has like a power connection port on it
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