My last 17" MacBook Pro?

Just like in this thread (https://discussions.apple.com/message/18617731#18617731), I cannot believe that Apple has abandoned the 17" market. As a web designer and photographer, I absolutely need (and LOVE) the extra room and impact the 17" display makes. I don't care that a 15" Retina display has the same pixel resolution... they still appear smaller on a 15" screen than they do on a 17" screen. Sorry guys, but size DOES matter!!!
Please Apple... reconsider the current product lineup and bring back the 17" model! Without it, I fear that I am at the end of my MacBook Pro lifeline... and will have to consider switching back to a Windoze computer so I can get the size I need.
- Extremely Disappointed MBP Owner
P.S... I'm secretly hoping that the only reason there isn't a 17" model available right now is because they haven't come up with a 17" Retina display... and that, with time, one will be released!!!

OGELTHORPE wrote:
"I FEEL YOUR PAIN" to quote a recent President of the USA. I waited in the vain with the hope that Apple would add a 17" MBP to their current line. With patience exhausted I ordered as late 2011 refurbished unit and have had it for a couple of weeks.
The only practical advantage that the new MBPs have are the USB 3 ports. This to a degree is mitigated by utilizing an eSata expresscard.
What I found interesting are the OWC bench tests indicate superior performance of the late 2011 MBP compared to the current 2012 MBPs. This is in spite of the faster CPUs and higher frequency RAM for the current crop. Counterintuitive to be sure and it would be interesting to know why.
I suppose the crux of the matter is that the 17" MBP aficionados get the refurbished units while they are still available. But then perhaps the gods in Cupertino will take pity on us and reintroduce a 17" MBP in the future.
Ciao.
Yeah... I'm getting ready to add a Samsung SSD to my MBP to speed things up and make me feel less depressed that there's no 17" model to upgrade to. Who knows... after the upgrade, I may be GLAD I don't have to spend money on a new laptop!

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