My last straw with MSI

I've just built a box using the following:
MSI K8N NEO2-F bios v1.B
athlon64 3000+
512 ram
running on windows xp pro Sp2
Now to the problem( s ):
(1)Onboard LAN does not work out-of-the-box.
 What I've tried to remedy this problem:
-uninstalled the lan driver
-disconnected LAN cable from router
-accessed the *hidden* feature in the bios (gotta give credit to msi on this one, very spiffy) and entered the mac address found on the printer port
-plugged LAN cable back in
-entered the mac address in the driver object from device manager
rebooted, tried the internet - no go
- tried "Repair connection" from windows - got "could not obtain an IP address, contact your admin or ISP"
(2)Mouse LED and tracking laser remain on after system shutdown
-happens to all mice i've tried
-mouse is connected PS/2 port
-BIOS does not have "Wake on..." setting enabled
-does not occur if mouse is plugged into USB (I use my ps/2 port to leave the USB free for other devices)
-So far, found no information whatsoever on troubleshooting
(3)NB Fan revs to 5600 RPM on bootup
-goes back down to ~2000 after about a minute, or as soon as Core Center jumps to the rescue
What I've thought of trying:
-unplugging - it is loud enough as it is, but is it safe for this board?
-replacing with a passive cooling solution
I don't want to overwhealm you folks, I understand that most of you have dedicated lots of time answering questions on these forums, and maybe others, but I have dedicated far too much time looking for answers, and yes I have combed these boards over and over.
Now If I can adress these 3 problems it's smooth sailing for this build, and for my future builds, I might even consider purchasing an MSI product again.

I just built my first computer last week, used the MSI Neo3-F mobo.
I have yet to get my lan recognized in Windows XP Pro.  Truthfully, I have not yet even trolled these boards to figure out why  I might be having a problem - I have mid-terms next week.    Yes, I did do the basic troubleshooting within XP, but after 45 minutes I tabled getting online with XP and turned my attention to phase 2 of the OS install on my new system - which was to load Ubuntu/Linux.
Tada - - I am writing this from my newly-built computer!
I installed Ubuntu Hoary-Hedgehog 5.04 Linux and it detected everything automatically the first time.  As soon as I made it to the desktop in the install process I was able to click on Firefox and get online.
It was just THAT easy!  Honestly!
Before assuming you have a MSI mobo problem on your hands, you might want to consider trying a different operating system - Linux is often used by PC builders for trouble-shooting purposes.
Another case in point:
I dual-booted a Gateway computer with XP and Ubuntu a few months back.  This computer had a 15inch CRT
Gateway monitor from Gateway.  The monitor worked great from the get go in Ubuntu, but I had to go to the Gateway site (while using Ubuntu/Firefox to get online) and download the driver for this itty-bitty throw-away monitor to get it to work in XP.  I still don't understand why XP's generic driver didn't work with this monitor.  It doesn't make sense to me, but I was not able to get the computer out of "safe mode" while in XP until I downloaded and installed the CRT monitor driver from Gateway.
I have not read all the posts - I am just sharing my own experience for consideration.  If it doesn't apply to your scenario in any way - feel free to ignore me. 
Susan 

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    This is MSI technical support engineer from Taiwan.
    We receive some message from MSI LA office & Anandtech.com.
    We are sorry for inconvinence experience when you try to Overclock MS-7100.
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    3200+ Venice (8x313) @ 2500Mhz
    Patriot PC4000 (200:133) 2.5-3-3-7
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    Aopen 6800GT @ Ultra speed
    AthenaPower 500W 3.3v - 26a 5v - 47a 12v - 28a
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    [Memclock index value(MHz)]
    [CAS# latency (Tcl)]
    [Adjust CPU FSB Frequency]
    [HT Frequncy]
    [Adjust CPU VID]
    [Extra CPU Voltage]¡Kor others
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    CPU ADA3500DAA4BW ABBWE made in Malaysia
    Memory G-skill PC4400 512MB*2 (Dual Channel)
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    Technical Support Engineer
    Technical Support Department
    E-mail: msi.com.tw
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